oh, hi. where are you from, little Bunnie?
edited 8th Feb '13 4:42:48 AM by Passerby
so much to do, and yet... here, it feels like one cannot do anything but lie here and sleep forever.edited 8th Feb '13 5:34:24 AM by PretentiousSkyCat
To the waking world I say,"Aha!"I don't know, try being Visayan or Cebuano sometime. I can't count the number of Northerners I've wanted to punch in the face for being stupid and using Visayan terms without any understanding of their meaning. Or when that same shit comes over the godsdamned radio.
Try being called 'ya-wa' to your face with a wide smile. When that translates roughly to 'devil'.
The only Northerners I've met who were actually competent were so un-Northern they only fit the type by being born in the North.
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I...what? People actually think yawa is a good word?
I really, really hope it's just another case of a word having different meanings in different languages/dialects, not an insult being appropriated by people who don't even understand what the word means, because ugh. I can't even finish the sentence.Ugh.
Unrelated: if people from Luzon are called Northeners, then does that mean I'm Southern? (I hail from Mindanao) And what do we call the Visayan people? Middle people? 0 degrees? Origins? This needs an answer.
edited 11th Feb '13 6:24:13 AM by PretentiousSkyCat
To the waking world I say,"Aha!"The definition of Northern - This depends on how vindictive I'm feeling; the more vitriol into the word, the more specific the meaning. (Crossref Cordelia Vorkosigan saying "Barrayarans!")
At its loosest, 'anyone born North of the northernmost point of Cebu'. I usually use it to mean 'anyone born in Luzon'. The narrowest and most vitriolic meaning is 'a bastard born in the NCR who can't speak English properly and delights in militant ignorance about everything that doesn't relate to Imperialist Manila'. (For clarity, I prefer using 'bastard Northerner' to refer to that last.)
Being Cebuano - Lessee, receiving complaints that, when speaking Cebuano to anyone else from Visayas, I'm not speaking Filipino (when, really, 'Filipino' is 'Tagalog As Spoken In Imperialist Manila'), complaining they can't understand me, getting bad 'Visayan' phrases tossed at me which they clearly don't know the meanings of.
Well, that's The Cebuano Dealing With Bastard Northerners. Other times, 'Cebuano' just means 'someone born in Cebu'. (Though to be completely precise, I was born on Mactan, the next island over.)
Had to go through High School as being 'That Guy Who Speaks English'. It did wonders for my view of bastard Northerners, let me tell you. (Yes, apparently being trilingual is a feat. Sigh.)
@Pretentious Sky Cat - The female who said it was our local equivalent of a Dumb Blonde. You may now raeg. And yes, you're a Southerner.
As for the crazy islanders in between the North and the South...hmm. Centrals, maybe? Centralers? Middlies? Middies? Islanders?
So, have you people ever felt you should like X because you feel like you should or everbody else does it but just can't?
Also, who's in favor of sending Mali to Thailand?
I think "Centrals" would fir the motif best.
@Illu: Guess I'm not alone in that respect... It's been almost a year since I moved from Cebu to Manila.
Even back home (home being Cebu), my English is such that every now and then, I am mistaken for a foreigner, or as the ignoramuses among us would say, porenger.
The Southpaw has no brakes!Sign me in the club. I'm still known as the English Speaking Girl, which, combined with the fact that I debate and am a part of the first section, has made me quite unapproachable, or so I've heard. People keep on asking me to speak in Bisaya. I actually used to try, but some people kept bullying me because of it and I lost my motivation. Never was able to find it again.
I have to say though, I was kinda hoping that when I move to NCR for college(just...a...few...more...months...left...you...can...do...this) I'll finally be able to talk to people who are also fluent in English, but then I heard my cousin complain about their English and it shattered the dream quite a bit. Oh well, at least I had other, more important reasons for moving.
@Sentai: Me me me! That poor elephant needs an adequate home and fellow elephant friends.
To the waking world I say,"Aha!"i really want to learn more about the rest of the country. so... @ Pretentious Sky Cat, tell me: what is life like there? also, which province?
please teach me ilokano and bisaya.
Like some of us here, I hail from Cebu.
To be short, think of Cebu as Manila Lite—not as well-developed, but it's getting there. At least, that's what they advise me to say.
I know this, very. Peer pressure sucks—what sucks more is when you happen to give into that, which I still regretted since switching accents with what you're used to is difficult. You could have kept persuading them to get used to continue to converse with you in Filipino while replying in English since you're having a hard time with it, that's what understanding friends are for, right? note , but believe me, it doesn't get any better in college, there are still a bunch of people too shy to speak with an "Eenglish Speekin Person", had a bad experienced with rich snobs who speak English fluently note , and there's still a lot of people who do alie—text speak so you prolly would have a hard time communicating with them with written/typed words.
It's very disillusioning to hope good things would happen whenever you start somewhere new but ending up with things being much worse, so just try not to. This is also the reason why I had an apprehension over trying new stuff since I expected many good things to happen, but nothing worth it came out of it. But it's still good to try, doesn't it? note
Ugh. Another whole block of text, AGAIN. Oh well, blocks of texts are good.
This is how I don't blame how most of our country-men tend to have self-depreciating humor since most of the people around us are too negative over every little flaw that doesn't matter. But self-depreciating humor tends to get old and annoying. note
Ugh. I hated that, when they think I have a hard time understanding Filipino just because I happen to be fluent at speaking English, and I hate drawing too much attention because of that.
Right now the opposite thing happened to me. People with that conyo accent speaking to me in that condescending slow idiot Filipino accent. Hello? Just because I speak Filipino well doesn't mean I don't understand fluent English, or that I'm a dumb retard.
@Skycat: Don't take this personally, but the reason why I don't like talking with "English speaking people" much, is because they seem to be like those rich snobs that tend to treat me as that ordinary Filipino layman that likes watching noon-time shows and gossip with the lives of other people that don't matter in their sparetime or as a shallow person just because I don't have that accent.
At least, that's what my friends say to me a lot that made me try not to do things to make them feel inferior and insecure than they usually are in this negative culture of ours... >_>
YAY. A HUGE BLOCK OF TEXT~! I'M SO AWESOME, AREN'T I?!?
edited 14th Feb '13 8:37:47 PM by TheJinny
True, there are diamonds in the pile of shit we call local entertainment... Finding them is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
I discussed my linguistic predicament with my older cousin once... According to him, I could pass for someone from SoCal with my accent. To think I'm actually Cebuano!
edited 15th Feb '13 12:12:35 AM by redrosary
The Southpaw has no brakes!Oh well, kung ang topiko today ay problema sa lingwahe, now is the time for me to speak up
To be honest, I'm not very well learned in Filipino and Ilonggo and have always for along time troubling me when it comes to reading, listening kag conversation
Examples include:
Sometimes having nosebleed when reading it with a voice
When reading something in filipino, there's a good chance that the english translation is much more understandable
Screwed up grammar, possibly, as well as constant dependence on others
One of my teachers even said that I'm not very familiar with layman's terms

Yey, a bunny! Now all we need are a few dogs, a budgie, and a chameleon and we can set up a menagerie.
To the waking world I say,"Aha!"