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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24826: Jan 12th 2015 at 4:44:11 PM

L Dragon you're gonna have to let it go. You seem to only ever come here to complain about Winter Soldier or talk about that one video complaining about Winter Soldier. It's kind of obsessive.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#24827: Jan 12th 2015 at 4:50:08 PM

I always assumed Widow didn't have the mask until she hooked back up with Fury in his safehouse that probably had a lot of neat toys.

Its not that much of a logical leap.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24828: Jan 12th 2015 at 5:20:04 PM

[up] I assumed from the get go that the mask is not something which can be created on a whim, which got confirmed later on in Ao S.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#24829: Jan 12th 2015 at 5:29:02 PM

What about a Joe Fixit movie?

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czhang from Canada Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#24830: Jan 12th 2015 at 6:00:23 PM

Jumping in to say, I watched this movie when it came out in theaters, but I got to rewatch it recently with my brother (who was completely unspoiled for it) once we got the DVD. I'd really forgotten how fun it is to watch something with someone who has no idea what's coming.

Aside note after reading the last couple pages: of all the complaints about this movie, Steve knowing passable French when he served in Europe in WWII and was good friends with a French guy is probably the strangest.

edited 12th Jan '15 6:01:05 PM by czhang

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#24831: Jan 12th 2015 at 6:04:31 PM

Just the fact that that video was considered by CS themselves as their best work and the notion that the film is a sensical as a Terry Gilliam fever dream doesn't really make me feel good for thinking the film is awesome.

Anyways, on a less obsessive note, new trailer for AOU!

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24832: Jan 12th 2015 at 6:16:33 PM

[up]Yes, we get it. But it's literally all you ever talk about. We get it for the love of god we get it. People saying mean things makes you feel bad for liking the film.

Anyway nice to see them having a lot more CGI work done in the trailer.

Hmm...could the scenes with Widow being drugged and strapped to a gurney be flashbacks or just Scarlet Witch's karate mind powers?

edited 12th Jan '15 6:45:00 PM by comicwriter

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#24833: Jan 12th 2015 at 6:32:44 PM

And just to be blunt, if anyone complains about other Avengers not being in WS, I have to ask them if they even saw WS and understood it, because they seem to be completely missing everything.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24834: Jan 12th 2015 at 6:38:27 PM

The thing is: yes Winter Soldier has lapses of logic and plot holes.

Every movie does. No movie has a perfect narrative. Its nearly impossible to present an airtight narrative in only a few hours. That's why movies fake it until they make it.

That's why fridge logic is called fridge logic. Because you only realize it on the way to the fridge afterward. Or suddenly lay awake at night in realization.

Its bad when you're taken out of a movie by those lapses of logic and its good when a movie distracts you sufficiently so that you aren't.

And for most people that is what Winter Soldier was.

Nitpickery really isn't a good method of critiquing a movie for this reason. It just isn't. Fun yes, but good no.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#24835: Jan 12th 2015 at 7:20:51 PM

Man, they really like that horrifying "No strings" motif.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#24836: Jan 12th 2015 at 7:26:58 PM

[up][up] The thing is that according to CS, they found all those nitpicks on their first watch of the movie.

Anyways, I guess the whole No Strings theme has become Ultron's unofficial anthem.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#24837: Jan 12th 2015 at 7:33:21 PM

The next time you talk about Cinema Sins or Winter Soldier in any capacity, I will hire a hacker to trace your Address through your IP and slap the shit out of you.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24838: Jan 12th 2015 at 8:11:48 PM

[up][up] You keep bringing it up so I shouldn't need to remind you that they came into the experience with a vendetta.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
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#24843: Jan 12th 2015 at 8:21:19 PM

In that case I'm going with Black Panther although that doesn't look like Chadwick Boseman to me.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#24844: Jan 12th 2015 at 8:35:41 PM

Maybe it's Vision?

And I just don't want us to think that the films we love so much are completely perfect so as to drown out any critiques about a film.

edited 12th Jan '15 8:37:26 PM by LDragon2

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#24845: Jan 12th 2015 at 8:50:17 PM

Those are some womanly hips for Vision...

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#24847: Jan 12th 2015 at 8:59:33 PM

That's almost definitely a woman.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#24848: Jan 12th 2015 at 9:10:46 PM

My bad then. I have no clue.

Maybe this film will set up several characters from phase III?

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#24849: Jan 12th 2015 at 9:19:32 PM

Misty Knight?

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24850: Jan 12th 2015 at 9:42:19 PM

People apparently think she's a Dora Milaje.

edited 12th Jan '15 9:56:59 PM by comicwriter


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