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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24726: Jan 7th 2015 at 3:16:48 PM

Honestly? I'd be surprised if they ever planned to tie into the Age of Ultron. Aside from the fact that they probably don't have an expensive CGI budget to have Daredevil fighting off swarms of killer robots, it doesn't sound like it'd mesh tonally with what they're going for.

They've been kind of adamant that Daredevil if the sort of street level story that hasn't been done in the more fantastic movies so far.

edited 7th Jan '15 3:52:31 PM by comicwriter

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#24727: Jan 7th 2015 at 3:26:13 PM

[up] That. If there's going to be any connection between Dare Devil and The Avengers Age Of Ultron, it would be a Red Skies Crossover at best.

edited 7th Jan '15 3:26:27 PM by TobiasDrake

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#24728: Jan 7th 2015 at 5:57:32 PM

Avenger heights. I never realized how tiny Hawkeye is.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#24729: Jan 7th 2015 at 5:59:59 PM

5'10" is considered pretty tall for any normal human.

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kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#24730: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:05:57 PM

Hawkeye isn't short. The others are just freakishly tall.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24731: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:07:02 PM

So, I'm massively late to the party on this, but what's the opinion on the Ant Man trailer?

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#24732: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:09:00 PM

God. I hate everything about that chart.

Scarlett Johansson is 5'3! Why couldn't Black Widow be the same?

edited 7th Jan '15 6:09:09 PM by Mukora

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spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#24733: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:09:44 PM

[up][up]Seems like a pretty standard superhero movie trailer to me. It's just "you've gotta be a superhero, action shots, witty one liner, cut to title card." Not bad, but nothing special.

edited 7th Jan '15 6:09:59 PM by spashthebandragon

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WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#24734: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:12:23 PM

The chart doesn't match the actors at all. EVERY character is somehow "taller" than their actor, whether a little or a lot, except for Jeremy Renner, who really is 5'10" - which actually makes him the third-tallest actor among the main cast, after Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans.

Robert Downey Jr is 5 feet, 8 1/2 inches, despite the chart showing Iron Man as the tallest character. Do they have to bring him a box, or do they deal with it with CGI?

edited 7th Jan '15 6:16:09 PM by WarriorEowyn

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#24735: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:14:22 PM

Iron Man is that height with the suit. Out of the armor Tony's shorter. But, IIRC they do use camera trickery to make him appear taller.

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24736: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:15:28 PM

The chart confuses me...mostly because I am pretty sure that RDJ is taller than Chris Evans to a degree that they have constantly find angles to hide the fact. After all, Captain America can't be smaller than a normal human being, since he is peek human.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#24737: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:18:04 PM

Chris Evans is 6'0

RDJ is 5'9. The shortest male in the MCU and still a freakish giant to me.

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WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#24738: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:19:07 PM

RDJ is 5ft, 8 1/2 inches. Chris Evans is taller, at 6' even. This information is brought to you by IMDB.

5'10" is the average height for men, so Renner (and/or Haweye) is not short.

I'm female and 5'10", so being taller than half of the cinematic Avengers - counting Banner as Banner rather than as the Hulk - amuses me. (As do all of the comments on this forum about Adrianne Palicki, who plays Mockingbird in Agents Of Shield and is an inch taller than me, being some kind of giantess.)

edited 7th Jan '15 6:22:24 PM by WarriorEowyn

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24739: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:25:10 PM

[up]X7

I guess so.

I wonder how it will fare after all the kerfuffle (yes, I used that word) with the previous director.

edited 7th Jan '15 6:25:31 PM by HandsomeRob

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GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#24740: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:27:10 PM

I'm as tall as RDJ. Wow.

Also, Spash pointed this out on another thread: Ant-Man will be scored by Christophe Beck. He's an industry veteran, doing everything from composing the songs for Once More With Feeling to composing the background music for a ton of different films, ranging from Percy Jackson, to Garfield, to The Hangover. It's not his first time scoring a superhero movie: he composed the BGM for Elektra and RIPD. It's also not the first he's done under Disney: he scored Paperman and Frozen.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#24741: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:38:23 PM

[up] That. If there's going to be any connection between Dare Devil and The Avengers: Age of Ultron, it would be a Red Skies Crossover at best.

I was thinking something more along the lines of the events of the series picking up after Ultron has been defeated, but before the damage to the city had been fully repaired, and that Kingpin had managed to get his "foot in the door" specifically because of the chaos cased by Ultron.

Since the Daredevil series is going to drop all at once, releasing it prior to Age of Ultron pretty much precludes any crossover.

edited 7th Jan '15 6:39:07 PM by Falrinn

Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#24742: Jan 7th 2015 at 7:31:35 PM

[up][up]Guy also scored both new Muppets movies too.

Just throwing it out there

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#24743: Jan 7th 2015 at 9:03:04 PM

Minor digression, but are you guys aware of how tall Tom Cruise is? Or rather, isn't?

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#24744: Jan 7th 2015 at 9:05:03 PM

I hear they have to make him stand on boxes or screw with perspective lest he be shorter than his female co-stars

That would be terrible and lead to the collapse of the union, probably.

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#24745: Jan 7th 2015 at 11:37:15 PM

With all of these tv shows starring secondary characters in the MCU, any chance we might get a Marvel spin off film?

I know this is kind of ridiculous, since the Marvel films are already spin offs starring previously Tier B or even Tier D characters but I'd still enjoy a Nick Fury movie.

edited 7th Jan '15 11:37:25 PM by Mattonymy

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#24746: Jan 8th 2015 at 7:20:11 AM

What do you mean spin-offs of the TV shows? Probably not.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#24747: Jan 8th 2015 at 7:52:30 AM

Do you think the movies will ever give the TV shows Continuity Nods? They'd probably have to be little Easter Eggs, just to avoid Continuity Lock-Out.

EDIT: Why do continuity nod and lock-out both use the same quote? That's just confusing.

edited 8th Jan '15 7:54:21 AM by spashthebandragon

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#24748: Jan 8th 2015 at 8:19:08 AM

[up][up]Spin offs of supporting characters in the films. For instance, a Black Widow movie that was supposedly in talks but has since been shelved comes to mind.

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#24749: Jan 8th 2015 at 8:30:14 AM

spash, same quotes because someone wasn't paying attention. tongue

Bringing it up in the page quote thread over in the wiki section of the forums.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#24750: Jan 8th 2015 at 9:09:15 AM

If we can't have Coulson in the movies due to Continuity Lock-Out in regards to Agents Of SHIELD, then why did Sitwell, who debuted in Marvel One Shots, appear in Captain America The Winter Soldier? I mean, I'm pretty sure there were people confused as to who he is since they never watched the One Shots.

edited 10th Jan '15 10:02:30 PM by HallowHawk


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