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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#24401: Dec 30th 2014 at 2:35:44 PM

Amazing 2 made $202 million, continuing the downward spiral of Spider-Man film sales. Even the much reviled Spider-Man 3 made $336 million. Sony's panicked because if the franchise continues this trend, pretty soon it will start making less than its production costs.

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#24402: Dec 30th 2014 at 2:36:04 PM

[up][up]Oooohhhh

....

Well I wasn't listening then, I was thinking of something else.

edited 30th Dec '14 2:36:36 PM by Mattonymy

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24403: Dec 30th 2014 at 2:45:37 PM

[up][up] I am not sure if you can compare that. The original trilogy didn't have much concurrence when it came to Comic Book movies. They cerainly hadn't to go up against three other comic book movies (not counting minor productions and animated movies) in the very same year. Al things considered, both TAS movies did well. They just didn't make as much money as Sony expected, but they did make more money than a lot of other comic book movies, including some from the MCU.

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#24404: Dec 30th 2014 at 2:53:45 PM

While true that they beat out some of the MCU's early films, Amazing 2 is still a strong demonstration of the general downward trend of the Spider-Man films, and came in dead last as far as superhero films in 2014 go on both the domestic and global scales. Sony can't afford to stay the course when every successive film underperforms the previous one by a wide margin.

And they know it. They wouldn't be reconsidering their Spider-Man Cinematic Universe plans if they didn't. Sony's not sure what to do with the franchise at this juncture, between the downward spiral at the box office and the audience's disinterest in the Sinister Six film they spent half of Amazing 2 building up to.

edited 30th Dec '14 2:55:27 PM by TobiasDrake

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24405: Dec 30th 2014 at 4:09:14 PM

Sony is not sure what to do with anything. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#24406: Dec 30th 2014 at 4:12:10 PM

I swear to god, if anyone posts that video, I will garote them with their own intestines.

You know the one.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24407: Dec 30th 2014 at 4:16:08 PM

So while discussing the Captain Marvel rumors Emily Blunt says she was up for Black Widow and Peggy Carter.

I knew about Widow (she made that awful Gulliver's Travel remake instead) but not Carter. She also says if she gets the Cap role to thank Meryl Streep.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#24408: Dec 30th 2014 at 4:18:54 PM

Looks like Scarlett Johansson and Haly Atwell have much better agents than Emily Blunt does.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#24409: Dec 30th 2014 at 4:25:45 PM

The main thing acquiring FF gives Marvel Studios over Spider-Man is content (that is, the FF mythos has a great deal more to contribute than the Spider-Man mythos), which Marvel Studios isn't really starving for right now - and at this point, they seem able to acquire secondary characters that might be covered by another mythos at will if they want to anyway (like Ronan).

In fact, the lack of FF and X-Men is likely leading to a similar situation as how the various embargoes effected the DCAU during Justice League - it gave them an opportunity to branch out their focuses, adapt things that might not have been if they were just sticking to the biggest names, and connect their universe in interesting ways.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#24410: Dec 30th 2014 at 4:37:16 PM

I knew about Blunt not being Carter, but it had sounded before like she turned it down. Ah well, schedules.

You know the one.

This one?

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#24412: Dec 30th 2014 at 5:39:00 PM

...Why is that Sarcasm Mode? Jack Black is great!

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#24413: Dec 30th 2014 at 5:42:37 PM

It takes a lot to make a stew...

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24414: Dec 30th 2014 at 5:54:40 PM

Also according to Collider, Claudia Kim's character is named Dr. Cho.

Kinda funny if after all that speculation she's just a Canon Foreigner.

LizardBite Shameless Self-Promoter from Two Galaxies Over Since: Jan, 2001
#24415: Dec 30th 2014 at 7:59:25 PM

wild mass guessHer full name is Amanda Cho, and she is a Gender Flipped adaptation of Amadeus Chowild mass guess

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24416: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:17:27 PM

Studpid decision...I get turning down Peggy Carter because, let's face it, this must have initially looked like a fairly minor supporting role which would lead to nowhere, but Black Widow? She better was already under contract before turning that one down, otherwise that move makes me really doubt her good sense. (But then, I wonder what kind of script the actors of the Gulliver movie got that they ever agreed to starring in the movie).

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24417: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:55:13 PM

[up][up]Ha perhaps Amadeus's relative?

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#24418: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:56:35 PM

She was already under contract for the Gulliver movie when approached to Widow. She couldn't sign on due that commitment.

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LizardBite Shameless Self-Promoter from Two Galaxies Over Since: Jan, 2001
#24419: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:30:12 PM

[up][up] Much more likely, but I like my ridiculous WMG better tongue

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#24420: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:38:53 PM

I was thinking she might be an older sister of Amadeus Cho or something. They could also be changing his gender.

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24422: Dec 31st 2014 at 7:57:27 AM

I admit, I can't really get behind what they did to Black Widow...she looks like an air traffic controller.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24424: Dec 31st 2014 at 8:25:27 AM

I'm fine with Widow. She needed to up her combat points somehow.

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#24425: Dec 31st 2014 at 9:54:10 AM

Oh man I am so hype for Vision

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