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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#24276: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:11:35 AM

Died in backstory.

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CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
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#24277: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:14:14 AM

I thought we knew she wasn't a major player for awhile.

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#24278: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:16:18 AM

Janet being dead has no bearing on Hope being the Wasp. Right now it seems like that won't be the case which is stupid.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#24279: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:17:18 AM

Hope becoming the Wasp may be a plot point they want to preserve for some reason.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24280: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:20:57 AM

There's a lot of conjecture going on for one teaser image.

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#24281: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:28:15 AM

Can't we just watch the movie first before being all judgemental on it? Perhaps they are holding off on Wasp for a good reason. After all, this movie is about introducing Ant Man into mainstream. I would understand the complains if Wasp had been come first and Ant Man were the off-shot character. But since that isn't the case, I can think of a lot of reasons why there is no word of Wasp yet. Perhaps they don't want to squeeze her in with all the other new stuff and want to hold her off for a different movie, which will allow more room for her.

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#24282: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:31:53 AM

I love Wasp as much as the next Marvel fan, but with the film's focus on Scott Lang instead of Hank Pym, this really isn't Jan's story.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#24283: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:32:08 AM

We know Hope Van Dyke is involved somehow. I'm pretty sure we also know she becomes Wasp.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24284: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:33:44 AM

[up][up] Should have been, I say speaking as if I know best.

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MiscellaneousSoup (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#24285: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:33:53 AM

Call me stupid, but the promo art just made me realize that ants will be in this movie. I am terrified of ants.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#24286: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:46:49 AM

[up]Thats crazy! Next you'll be telling me they make superheroes based on bats and spiders!

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24287: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:48:31 AM

A bat based superhero is crazy.

Ants and spiders and supers are scary but bats are cute little burritos. Anyone dressing as a bat for intimidation purposes would get laughed out of continuity.

edited 29th Dec '14 11:50:12 AM by Bocaj

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spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#24288: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:50:44 AM

[up]I think we can all agree supers are the hands-down scariest creatures in the animal kingdom.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#24289: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:21:22 PM

I would read an alternate universe comic with a superhero who used spider motifs to strike fear into the hearts of cowardly and superstitious criminals, and a Friendly Neighbourhood Batman. Spiders are tons scarier than bats.

edited 29th Dec '14 1:21:43 PM by WarriorEowyn

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#24290: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:24:58 PM

Case in point.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24293: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:27:40 PM

What a cute!

Dogs have cutlery like that and nobody ever thinks less of them.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#24294: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:30:55 PM

Some info about Daredevil:

  • Despite taking place in the MCU don't plan on seeing the Avengers anytime soon (I think everyone figured as much).

  • They want to explore New York and street level hero work in general, which has so far largely been unexplored in the MCU.

  • It will be just as much about the rise of the Kingpin as it is about the rise of Daredevil.

  • Daredevil is not literally without fear and the audience will see his inner struggles and demons.

  • They reiterate Bullseye will absolutely not be in the first season, because they don't want to rehash the 2003 movie. They do say the door is open for him to debut in future seasons, though.

MiscellaneousSoup (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#24295: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:31:49 PM

I mostly meant close-up shots of swarming ants. This will be very hard to watch.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#24296: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:05:27 PM

Honestly, I'd be inclined to place the blame for a lack of Janet on Edgar Wright; who's not shown an interest in telling stories about women since SPACED, and he only collaborated on that.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24298: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:22:14 PM

Ant-Man was his pet project.

Whedon wanted to put Janet in Avengers but the movie was already too busy and/or didn't want to conflict with Ant-Man, dunnae.

edited 29th Dec '14 2:23:42 PM by Bocaj

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#24299: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:26:00 PM

I'd very much like to be proven wrong.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#24300: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:27:07 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]

While the Avengers themselves obviously won't show up in Daredevil, given that the series is launching right after Age of Ultron I wonder if the immediate aftermath of the movie is going to play into it. Perhaps Kingpin rising to power, as well as any other major problems in Hell's Kitchen, will be tied directly into the chaos surrounding Ultron's attacks in New York.

Blaming the problems of the neighborhood, if very indirectly, on Ultron could be a way around the reality that Hell's Kitchen is a far better place to be nowadays then it was back when Daredevil debuted.

edited 29th Dec '14 2:27:38 PM by Falrinn


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