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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ithilgore Since: Jan, 2001
#23901: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:50:49 AM

Brief behind the scenes clip of AOU, from the GOTG Blu Ray:

http://i.imgur.com/vkB7FnQ.gifv (higher quality http://gfycat.com/LastingDeadlyAcornbarnacle )

Looks like a dance number without any FX.

Seems to be from this scene glimpsed in the Marvel Pop to Pulp special:

http://i.imgur.com/6doKw3E.gifv

Scarlet Witch makin' waves.

edited 16th Dec '14 5:51:34 AM by Ithilgore

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#23902: Dec 16th 2014 at 6:28:37 AM

Totally random observation, but I really like the stockings...they look so witchy.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#23903: Dec 16th 2014 at 7:03:09 AM

Scarlet Witch looks kinda hot, but Hawkeye looks... what's this mix of "sorta cool, sorta ridiculous"? Does he not even get a real bow anymore?

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23904: Dec 16th 2014 at 7:24:57 AM

He's probably not using his bow in this scene.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#23905: Dec 16th 2014 at 7:29:12 AM

I remember hearing, possibly on this site, that Mary Jane was pregnant at the time, so Mephisto got the fetus that would become Mayday Parker?

No. People keep saying that, but it's wrong. One More Day has absolutely nothing to do with Mayday Parker, who was already born and exists in character limbo by the time it happened.

MJ gave birth to Mayday in the denouement of the Clone Saga. In the same hurricane of Reset Buttons that ended the Clone Saga as Aunt May and Norman Osborn's resurrections and Ben Reilly's death, MJ gave birth to the child that she'd been pregnant with during the arc and Norman Osborn immediately stole the baby. This has never been resolved. A What If? issue asked the question of what if Peter and MJ had managed to keep the baby, and during that issue, she grew up to be Mayday Parker, Spider-Girl. This spun off into the MC 2 alternate future.

Mayday has no connection to One More Day in any way, shape, or form. It is true that Mephisto boasted of robbing the pair of a child, but it was a child with MJ's deep red hair and no resemblance to Mayday, and MJ was not pregnant, Mephisto was merely talking about a future offspring they would one day have, and the way he talked about it was more "salt in the wound" than true intent.

When people say that One More Day robbed the universe of Mayday, they have no idea what they're talking about. It's a phenomenon I've seen countless times among much reviled storylines, where people ran out of things to be angry about but were still angry, so they began inventing new ones. There are many problems with One More Day, but causing Spider-Girl never to happen is not one of them. Spider-Girl will never happen because it was a hypothetical alternate universe from the moment of its conception, not because Joey Quesada sabotaged it.

edited 16th Dec '14 7:33:17 AM by TobiasDrake

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23906: Dec 16th 2014 at 7:35:57 AM

You covered that. Nevermind.

edited 16th Dec '14 7:36:34 AM by GethKnight

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#23907: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:08:11 AM

Yeah, leave off Quesada for that specific point.

Instead hate Slott for making her an orphan.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#23908: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:29:21 AM

So...pym is know beause he beat his wife once,scarlet because of "no more mutants"(and make out with his brother) and Spider is now know as the guy with the clone...or the guy who sold his marrige to the devil.....

Any more moment like this in the comics?

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#23909: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:45:40 AM

Well, Falcon was a pimp and Thor once killed his grandfather.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#23910: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:47:19 AM

Iron Man with his Civil War antics.

GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#23911: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:58:02 AM

Are we really sure Mayday Parker will never happen, though? So far Peter's past was mostly similar to his pre-One More Day life, aside from people suddenly being a little less dead.

Signatures are for lamers.
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#23912: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:09:18 AM

The time Daredevil burned down an orphanage while cackling maniacally. (Okay, I made that one up.)

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#23913: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:13:33 AM

We can mock Daredevil for his 90s costume.

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lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#23914: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:17:53 AM

What about the Thanos-copter?

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#23915: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:19:23 AM

Are we really sure Mayday Parker will never happen, though? So far Peter's past was mostly similar to his pre-One More Day life, aside from people suddenly being a little less dead.

Mayday Parker already happened. Norman Osborn kidnapped the baby and the writers promptly forgot she existed. Spider-Girl takes place in what was explicitly identified as an alternate universe from the moment it was created. It is not the future of the 616 timeline, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, regardless of what happened in One More Day and its ensuing timeskip.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:19:52 AM by TobiasDrake

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#23916: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:23:30 AM

DeFalco wanted to bring back Mayday but the editors made him bring back Aunt May instead. Thus the genetically altered actress thing.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:27:14 AM by Bocaj

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spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#23917: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:28:52 AM

[up][up][up]HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THE THANOS-COPTER WAS ANYTHING SHORT OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE CONCEPT TO GRACE COMIC PAGES?!

[up][up]Wait, so is 616 Mayday's little baby corpse in a dumpster somewhere, then? Or is she gonna come back years from now in an epic storyline where it turns out Norman somehow raised her as a supervillain?

...Holy crap, that's a way better idea than Silk.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:29:27 AM by spashthebandragon

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#23918: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:32:40 AM

Its never going to happen as long as the editors at marvel are pathologically afraid of aging Peter.

Even a slightly grown up daughter would mean that Peter MIGHT BE THIRTY YEARS OLD!!!!

And then everyone would die of old age instantly. Especially Franklin Richards.

Besides, the concept was basically already used with the Gwen slept with Norman story and her artificially aged up children.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:33:30 AM by Bocaj

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#23919: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:32:59 AM

Jean Grey is known for dying and blowing up a populated planet. Really, just check the page on Never Live It Down.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:33:17 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#23920: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:35:15 AM

[up][up] That, yes.

It is probable that 616 Mayday will remain in Character Limbo, being raised and taken care of by other characters the plot forgot about, changing parents and guardians every time a long-forgotten character returns to the spotlight or another one drifts off the pages into temporary oblivion, until one day she returns to take her revenge on the fickle system of popularity powers and gratuitous murder of the D-listers that were brought out of Limbo just to die.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:37:31 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23921: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:37:42 AM

Alas, she had become the very incarnation of such characters and dies in the very same panel she returns.

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#23922: Dec 16th 2014 at 10:06:42 AM

Not complaining or anything, but I can't help but be amused by how this thread (dedicated to a franchise he isn't even a part of) seems to have more discussion of Spider-Man than the threads actually about him do.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23923: Dec 16th 2014 at 10:17:49 AM

That's becuase we get into what Spider-Man could do for a different franchise all the time. The Amazing Spider-Man universe is still in it's infancy, there's nothing but possible spin-offs to talk about there.

kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#23924: Dec 16th 2014 at 11:15:54 AM

Mayday is a really stupid name, so perhaps it all worked out for the best.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#23925: Dec 16th 2014 at 11:28:56 AM

Its a nickname.

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