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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I think that I would rather have Peter be in Civil War and maybe participate in Infinity War and then have a complete movie with Miles afterwards, be it from Marvel or whoever. They would have Peter in the cameo with no backstory and set the stage for Miles later on.
edited 14th Dec '14 4:55:54 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.Wow, I'm sorry for starting such a big argument. Though, I have to agree with the one poster above that the movies are an AU of the comics. Hell, I have voiced on other message boards that I'm annoyed at Marvel for having a Multiverse, where by definition it would be a place of infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Instead it is mostly alternate timelines and retreads slavishly sticking to 616 ad infinitum. I just feel that Miles would be a fresh new take to see instead of yet another Peter Parker "with great power comes great responsibility" movie. If i wanted to see that I have 5 others of various quality I could see or some really good cartoons.
edited 14th Dec '14 4:56:54 PM by GoukaRyuu
x5 Oh ho ho, I've got some bad news for you, Miles has a love interest, too, and she's even less tolerable than Ultimate Mary Jane! Though she's also a Hydra agent or something, so that's pretty interesting. Still, I can't stand the way Miles waltzed up to Mary Jane and was all like, "I think I'm in wuv with a girl, but I'm scared to tell her my secret idenity, I'm confused and need you to tell me exactly what Peter did so I can copy him. Waaaah!"
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Actually, a girlfriend who is a Hydra agent has the potential to be a very interesting plot thread.
edited 14th Dec '14 5:02:49 PM by LordVatek
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Well, okay, he's not the worst thing to happen to Spider-Man...
Doesn't seem to have much impact on her personality, though. She still seems like a typical teenage girl, but maybe the writers will surprise us, I don't know.
edited 14th Dec '14 5:04:42 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.She's Kate Fucking Bishop, so if they were adapting her they could mix-and-match from her Ultimate personality and her 616 personality. On that note, she's Kate Fucking Bishop as raised by Hydra agents so I'm pretty sure she'll surprise us in the next couple issues. Plus, it clearly does impact her personality, it's just that Kate is too much of a hardass to let it show in mundane life.
edited 14th Dec '14 5:49:21 PM by czhang
Oh, whoops, I had no idea that was a preexisting character. Sorry. I thought she was one of the (painfully few) characters from Miles's supporting cast original to his own comic.
edited 14th Dec '14 6:24:14 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Are you saying this is a race thing? I don't care if they make Spider-Man's skin neon green so long as the movie is good. I just want to see the character I like (Peter Parker, or at least Miles with the overall personality of Peter I guess) in a good movie, having a well-written character arc and cracking witty one-liners.
Though I do have to wonder how well-recieved Miles would've been if he was white like Peter. No, wait, that's happened before.
edited 14th Dec '14 6:48:31 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Sorry, I know, didn't mean to imply otherwise. The Clone Saga he came from, on the other hand...
Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing Ultimate Spider-Woman in the movies. It'd be a little weird, though. Ooh, and they could cast a cross-dressing Andrew Garfield!
edited 14th Dec '14 6:58:16 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.I'm a Peter Parker fan on the Spidey front and I don't think he has ever been faithfully adapted. Maybe it's just my fan-ness talking but Maguire didn't have either side of the coin exactly right. His Peter never gained the aloof confidence of his comic book counterpart. Garfield felt like a combination of Peter and the 10th doctor with way too much nervy ness. Neither Spidey has matched the madcap motormouth that is Peter Parker's Spider-man.
I think using Miles Morales would be an unnecessary move.
Wait... Miles' girlfriend is Duchess Kate having sex with Bishop from X Men? I can't even imagine the rights battle there.
No, we instead spent those pages discussing if Spider-Man gets shoved into the MCU whether or not it should be Miles Morales instead.
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I suggest using Supaidaman instead. He has a giant robot.
edited 14th Dec '14 10:12:58 PM by TrashJack
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryOur focus groups suggest that chicks dig giant robots.
edited 14th Dec '14 10:14:57 PM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.^ Actually more accurate than it seems. Marvel had a fairly big hand in the first few Super Sentai and Leopardon was the proof that giant robots worked.
You know, movies are long enough that we can have our cake and it here, guys.
Start the film a Cold Open. No origin story, no explanation, here's Spider-Man fighting... The Shocker, whoever. Does pretty good. Goes home, unmasks, he's Peter Parker. Establish that he's been in the game for a few years. But have him pick up on something. Some sort of plot, some sort mystery involving some of Peter's villains.
The secondary plot shows the origins of Miles Morales. He's a teenage kid who looks up to Spider-Man. We show the accident that gives him his powers, and we show him decided to not go into superheroism. Show the reasonable arguments against him going into it. Make us understand this decision.
Peter continues to investigate. We like him. We introduce his supporting characters, he continues investigating into the mystery. And then, at the top of the second act: he dies. Peter Parker sacrifices his life to save people.
Show the impact on Miles. Have him say something in the effect of "If I had taken up superheroing, I could've been there, I could have saved him, but I didn't realise that With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility."
He picks up on Peter's investigation, finds his notes on it, comes to the same conclusion he did. Training Montage, Final Battle.
Sequel goes into Miles' interactions between him and Peter's supporting cast.

Because, unfortunately, that's what he is if he you're not giving him what makes him a unique, individual character from Peter Parker. As we've been noting a lot on the past page or so, Peter Parker as Spider-Man is super iconic - Peter Parker is Spider-Man to most non-comic fans: in the opposite of a lot of the reactions people would have to other character, people are by and large unaware that there even are alternate Spider-Men while pop culture has internalized Peter. So unlike some less well known characters, he's not a character where you can just use a legacy character as if they were the main version without people noticing (contrast Captain Marvel - people don't really know either Mar-Vell or Carol outside the comics, so the average viewer is thankfully not going to think of Carol as "the girl Captain Marvel").
This is particularly important because, again, Miles would get very few opportunities to express himself as a character. John Stewart had a whole television series to establish himself in the public eye as a separate GL from Hal. Miles, if he does enter the MCU, won't have that luxury because there's just no time to really develop him extensively.
Plus, from a characterization standpoint, if Miles is just written as Peter without the things that make Miles' experience as Spider-Man unique, then you're not adapting Miles - you're adapting Peter Parker as a Hispanic kid named Miles Morales. It's like if you adapt Dick Grayson as , but because people always use Dick Grayson you just call him Tim Drake. This probably won't have as much of an effect as Spidey (since Robin hasn't appeared in a feature film in, like, ever), but it would still be a shame not using some of the qualities that make Tim a fun and interesting character in his own right.
edited 14th Dec '14 4:56:10 PM by KnownUnknown