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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#23726: Dec 14th 2014 at 1:49:00 PM

[up] You know, as much as I like Spier-Man, I can't help thinking that bringing him in now, when they've already got so much planned out, would be...disruptive. And not in a good way.

Oh God! Natural light!
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#23727: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:07:14 PM

I think they'll be replacing Iron Man franchise with their Spider-man franchise.

Also I think they might not give him a movie for a while. He'll probably be like the Incredible Hulk and just not star in his own movie until IW is done and just be in a supporting role for a while.

Also I might finally get to see Spider-man with the Avengers kicking Thanatos butt.cool

Best part of this though for me is that we may be getting an Agent Venom movie and no more romantic focus.

edited 14th Dec '14 2:07:51 PM by MadSkillz

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#23728: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:09:02 PM

Oh man, now I really want to see Miles Morales in the MCU.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#23729: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:19:29 PM

Again, it's just Thanos.

I'm so over Spider Man. He's like Marvel's crutch character, like Batman is for DC, only the MCU doesn't need him. But I guess money is money.

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#23730: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:24:19 PM

[up][up]I know right. Someone on a new site was saying that using Miles would be great if having him unmask, whether publicly or just to our other heroes, would be part of the plot. How much would that twist expectations when he unmasks and it's Miles Morales?

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#23731: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:25:07 PM

@wanderlust I'm guessing if we got Iron Man 4 with Spiderman as the deuteragonist that it'd be something you'd never watch.

It'll be fine as long as they don't over-expose Spider-Man and wait a while to do a Marvel movie with him.

Keep him in a supporting role.

Personally, I'd do Miles Morales instead of Peter Parker though. We have virtually no Hispanic superheroes and probably no plans for any. And I maintain that it's Peter Parker and not Spider-man we're burned out on.

edited 14th Dec '14 2:25:51 PM by MadSkillz

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#23732: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:25:35 PM

It'd be hard to pull off, obviously, 'cause he couldn't have any lines before unmasking. But still, that would send audiences for a fucking trip.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#23733: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:25:49 PM

[up][up] I'll be honest, using Miles would make this much easier to accept, at least in my opinion.

Wait, would unmasking have any importance if the conflict isn't about secret identities?

edited 14th Dec '14 2:26:24 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#23734: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:26:15 PM

... Oh my god I am so down for a Spider-Man unmasking plot that makes the audience think it's peter Parker but it actually turns out to be Miles Morales.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#23735: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:29:18 PM

Tony: ......Didn't expect that.

edited 14th Dec '14 2:29:26 PM by SonOfSharknado

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#23736: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:31:08 PM

Spider-man unmasks himself and it turns out that there's another mask under there.

Spider-man unmasks himself and it turns out it's Pedro Estacionero.

Spider-man unmasks himself and it's the Red Skull.

Spider-man unmasks himself and it's Edward Norton come for revenge against the Marvel execs for replacing him.

Spider-man unmasks himself and it's a Doombot. Yes Marvel got back Doctor Doom, you fools.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#23737: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:31:28 PM

[up][up] Rhodey: "Racist."

edited 14th Dec '14 2:31:37 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#23738: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:33:25 PM

Tony: What? He sounds white!

Falcon: Nooooot even gonna touch that.

edited 14th Dec '14 2:33:42 PM by SonOfSharknado

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#23740: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:41:51 PM

Spider-Man unmasks and underneath is Fin Fang Foom.

No, we don't know how he fit into that costume. Neither does he.

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GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#23741: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:46:09 PM

I think the heroes would be shocked that this person going around calling himself Spider-Man is actually a kid. The way I would look at it is that he has been operating since a few months after the Chitauri Invasion, Oscorp could have been illegally (or not) studying the weaponry as well as the energy it used and Spiders could have been one of the animals that tested on. Given that they have said the amount of time between films is roughly the amount of time that has passed in-universe you could have Spider-Man around for the last 2-3 years, I'd probably have him happen a little before SHIELD fell so they didn't get to him before that. You can then use him as a side character in several films. Heck, if you want to do a Miles Morales origin, make it a short film or something that happens earlier in the timeline so he is already ready for action.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#23742: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:55:08 PM

Steve: Wait, wait, wait. You're....what, 14?

Miles:....Yeah?

Steve: Oh god that is so horribly irresponsible what are you doing oh god Tony what are we doing, are we a bad influence on this kinda behavior?

Tony: Don't mind him. He goes on responsibility rants.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#23743: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:57:21 PM

I don't think that Miles Morales will happen. The general audience just wouldn't accept anyone other than Peter Parker under the mask, unless Peter Parker himself passes the torch...and that would be a too complicated storyline to put it just as a subplot in one movie.

But if Marvel replaces Andrew Garfield, I hope that they will at least go for a teenager Spider-man.

edited 14th Dec '14 2:58:13 PM by swanpride

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#23744: Dec 14th 2014 at 2:58:42 PM

[up] Maybe not, but it's worth a try.

edited 14th Dec '14 2:58:52 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#23745: Dec 14th 2014 at 3:00:13 PM

If Marvel got the Spider-Man rights back completely I would be more happy to hear that Jessica Drew is in Captain Marvel to set up for her getting her own movie than if Peter/Miles got his own film.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#23746: Dec 14th 2014 at 3:01:26 PM

Jessica Drew isn't tied to the Spider-Man rights, though. They could just do that if they wanted.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23747: Dec 14th 2014 at 3:21:19 PM

The general audience just wouldn't accept anyone other than Peter Parker under the mask, unless Peter Parker himself passes the torch...

I think you underestimate what the audience would actually accept.

edited 14th Dec '14 3:21:40 PM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#23748: Dec 14th 2014 at 3:21:20 PM

I'd love Miles Morales in the MCU, though I kind of wish they could find some way to fit in a "inspired by a great hero, Peter Parker, who died fighting for good" idea, and I can't think of any way to that way that would give Peter the Posthumous Character vibe I'd really want for that kind of theme to have (he'd probably end up feeling more like a Throwaway Character), without actually centering a movie on Miles, which they shouldn't do right now and wouldn't be able to do for a while anyway.

edited 14th Dec '14 3:21:35 PM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23749: Dec 14th 2014 at 3:22:30 PM

I think you could have Miles appear in an Avengers movie or some such and just acknowledge there was a Spider-Man before him and that he obviously feels the weight of that.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#23750: Dec 14th 2014 at 3:24:46 PM

I really don't think Miles deserves to be the MCU Spider-Man. 1) The MCU is the most well-known Marvel adaptation in the public eye, so having anyone but Peter Parker will inevitably make little kids and people unfamiliar with general Spider-Man lore to get confused. 2) Miles hasn't been Spidey that long, and when he is Spidey, a good chunk of his adventures are "angsting" and "crossing over with the original Spider-Man through improbable means." 3) I don't like him and he's terrible and Ultimate Peter was my favorite character ever and then they ruined him for this crap I wish Miles would go away forever uuuuuaaaaaagh!

edited 14th Dec '14 3:25:38 PM by spashthebandragon

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