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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23551: Dec 12th 2014 at 6:44:06 AM

According to more Sony leaks, the Russos will be directing Infinity War.

During a chat with Amy Pascal (the woman who just made headlines for making racist-ass jokes about president Obama) they mention being offered a gig to direct the next Spider-Man movie, but having to turn it down due to their commitment with Infinity War.

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#23552: Dec 12th 2014 at 6:46:40 AM

I think Reed just does it out of habit. The powers being more an extension of himself. That may just be how he shrugs.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#23553: Dec 12th 2014 at 7:19:12 AM

It kind of works. One thing I've found fairly persistent about Reed is that he really utilises Mundane Utility, so perhaps he just started using his power even when it doesn't help.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#23554: Dec 12th 2014 at 7:52:18 AM

[up][up][up]Was it just a rumor before that they were getting to do IW in exchange for having to do a Civil War story in Cap3?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23555: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:04:04 AM

[up]Yes there was a claim (that so far hasn't been verified) that they did not want Cap 3 to be Civil War, but that they agreed to go along with it because Feige told them he'd give them the keys to the Avengers franchise if they kept quiet and played ball.

There are some people who are thinking Marvel decided on Civil War because it's coming out the same year as Dawn of Justice, and Batman is such a consistent mainstream draw.

edited 12th Dec '14 8:06:30 AM by comicwriter

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#23557: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:02:09 AM

[up][up]I don't think so...they set up the tension between Tony and Steve early on. Civil War might have been a not exactly well received comic book series, but it was based on a great idea, so it would be high on my list for adaptation, too. And they have to do it as long as they still have all the actors they need under contract.

In fact, I have a feeling that Marvel currently only pays attention to DC as an afterthought. When DC was all "brooding Batman", they picked their own path. Now they only have to see it through.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23558: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:09:27 AM

With all due respect, I don't think there's any studio in Hollywood that does not pay attention to what its competitors are doing. That's kinda basic 101 stuff.

edited 12th Dec '14 9:11:52 AM by comicwriter

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#23559: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:25:06 AM

[up]Yeah, but I don't think that Marvel goes all scary cat and adjust their plans just because DC reveals some plans.

Plus, wasn't Dawn of Justice originally planed for 2015 and then pushed back? So they would have been the second to the punch originally.

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#23560: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:29:06 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if they just wanted to get Civil War out of the way before RDJ leaves the franchise.

EDIT: Especially since there isn't going to be an Iron Man film in Phase 3.

edited 12th Dec '14 9:30:52 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23561: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:29:23 AM

Dawn of Justice had a particular date, then Cap 3 was announced on that same date, then Dawn of Justice's mom got scared and said they're moving with their auntie and uncle at a different date.

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#23562: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:31:25 AM

In fairness, it wouldn't be good for either of them to air on the same date.

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#23563: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:33:56 AM

Mostly because I can't watch both movies at once.

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#23564: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:36:49 AM

Yeah, won't the studios think of Son of Sharknado?

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#23565: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:37:30 AM

Well, technically, none of us can see the movies at the same time. Stupid Hermione, ruining time turners for everyone else.

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#23566: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:46:28 AM

It's not that complicated. Once you get to the theater, perform cellular division to split yourself. Once the film's over, recompile into a single being with the memory of both. I do it all the time.

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#23567: Dec 12th 2014 at 10:23:30 AM

[up] Isn't that Multiple Man's power?

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kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#23568: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:46:11 PM

Nah, cause once you're split in half, one half is bound to go rogue, and try to kill the other. It's like a rule.

Anywho, I just realized. Is there like a single character in the MCU who's L/G/B/T/A/Whatever?

edited 12th Dec '14 12:47:29 PM by kalel94

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23569: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:50:46 PM

Is it that important to the character? Like, would it impact anything to know that Black Widow was bi or that Hawkeye is genderqueer?

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#23570: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:51:08 PM

Representation is important

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#23571: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:51:16 PM

Loki was genderqueer at some point, I think, though this stuff comes and goes with different creative teams. And Steve may be canonically bisexual? I get conflicting reports on this.

I vaguely remember F4 getting praise for having queer characters though I still haven't had the chance to read it.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#23572: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:52:01 PM

Well, the MCU though.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#23573: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:53:05 PM

Ah! Okay.

Um, Agents of SHIELD was gonna have a lesbian at one point. The woman who was friends with Snarky British Mercenary in the season two premiere. But then they nixed it when they realized they were gonna kill the character and had already killed Victoria Hand, who they were gonna retcon as being her girlfriend.

Besides that? I really don't think so.

edited 12th Dec '14 12:54:11 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#23574: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:53:35 PM

Damnit Agents of SHIELD

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23575: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:54:29 PM

Well, Loki's been a woman in the source material. Be weird to not have him a her. [up][up]I'm aware that representation is important. I'm asking if it's important to make a character LBGT for the sake of having representation. Though I might be misinterpreting what was said. Probably am.

Addition: Yea, Hand was to be gay like in the comics, but they nix'd it when they killed her off.

edited 12th Dec '14 12:55:37 PM by GethKnight


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