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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Yeah, all of the Phase I movies contributed to building up The Avengers in some way, though I'd say that Captain America The First Avenger and Thor were the most important ones, for introducing the Tesseract and the villain. The others aren't as important for understanding the key elements of the Avengers (Stark's pretty clearly "cocky rich smart guy in an armour suit" from his first scene in The Avengers; watching his movies isn't really necessary for understanding his character in The Avengers, and the existence of SHIELD doesn't require an explanation - tons of movies have a Men-in-Black style government organization).
Iron Man 3 (in terms of Stark moving away from a day-to-day focus on the suits) and The Winter Soldier (in terms of removing SHIELD as a global security force) are the main Phase 2 films building up to Stark's decision to create Ultron as an alternative measure for global security. Thor 2 doesn't seem relevant to Age of Ultron; it's focused towards the longer story of the Infinity Stones, as is Guardians Of The Galaxy.
Cap 3 will be dealing with fallout from Age of Ultron; most of the rest of the Phase 3 films seem likely to involve the Infinity Stones to some degree.
edited 9th Dec '14 10:21:43 PM by WarriorEowyn
Looking at some old posts and I've gotta say, the last post on this page is pretty
Hilarious in Hindsight.
I am very disappointed that the talks concerning Spider-man fell through...did anyone say why? Well, at least the concept is a cooperation is not as far-fetched as some people claimed it to be. On the other hand, though, I like the current version of Spider-Man, and if Marvel had insisted on a new Spider-Man, I would have been broken up, too.
And now that the Inhumans of officially arrived in the Ao S, hopefully the show will have an even larger role than so far.
edited 10th Dec '14 2:10:11 AM by swanpride
So, I haven't seen the latest Ao S but, I never have spoilers blocked because I have to use my phone a lot so... Yeah, I was really really hoping Tripp wouldn't go so soon, or at all.
They have screwed over every dark-skinned good guy in the show. Again. I thought Deathlok was awful but at least he was released from his bondage to the enemy and we got Tripp who was a cool dude. This is like a really really bad joke about black dudes dying first in a horror movie. I thought we really had something with this growing cast of characters.
The Blog The Art^ Yes, as far as we know. Last scene with him was him falling to his knees after being released from control after he was no longer needed to defend the temple.
All your safe space are belong to TrumpThis. His flexibility, agility, webs, and wall-sticking give him a largely three-dimensional fighting style in which he is rarely just standing on the ground punching someone, and trying to portray that fighting style in a moving medium is hard.
A major element of Spidey is the inhuman way he moves. An unfortunate fact of Spidey is that inhuman methods of moving are very difficult to manage in live-action without loads and loads of CGI. Big-budget Hollywood flicks have trouble getting Spidey to actually move like a spider rather than some schlub on a zipline; good luck with a TV serial.
edited 10th Dec '14 7:18:20 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Ao S stuff: Mack's okay!? Well it's still a shame about Tripp, he was the closest thing the team had Grant and while they have a multitude of badass ladies to compensate, it'll be a shame to know that he's gone. I'll be able to catch up on the episode when I get home on the 18th or 19th so... I can't wait to see how this Inhuman stuff is playing out. But I'm glad Mack's apparently okay.
I'm fine with Spidey not having involvement. Things are fine as is. Also Tobias brings up a good point. It's definitely why we won't be seeing a Spidey live action TV show any time soon. Good thing he tends to have cool animated series.
The Blog The ArtAnother thing to consider is how it would work from a narrative perspective. It'd be awesome to have some integration, but just for Civil War? Perhaps the most important hitch up with such a thing is that having Spider-Man just show up and reveal his identity or make an impassioned speech wouldn't amount to much, because Spider-Man hasn't been involved in the MCU and we have no real context for how his existence in the universe. This isn't even a character introduction issue, like with DC's movies, it's a "we haven't seen Spidey effected by Ultron, or the invasion, or anything - he's not a part of the universe, so him chiming in on the universe's issues don't matter much."
Which means his own movies themselves would have to be effected and tie completely into the MCU for that to even matter (which Sony absolutely disagreed with, I'm guessing), and that the tie in itself would have to be developed before Civil War to have maximum effect (which Sony wouldn't be able to do either way, I'm guessing).
After seeing last night's episode, I jauntily laugh in the face of everyone who passed off Agents Of SHIELD as being "100% totally needless" to watch the MCU films.
edited 10th Dec '14 1:59:05 PM by Mattonymy
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You'd be surprised how many people went "Ooh, AOS can't do such and such because the films need to do it first!" or "AOS is just a reactive show that merely dips into the MCU's film franchise occassionally" or "No, the creators are trying to do their own thing with the show and not have it introduce new elements".
I'd say fifty-fifty. You don't have to watch the show to understand the movies, but it will definitely explain things a lot earlier. I can just imagine Marvel coming out with another GOTG film that just drops the audience into the action, while the whole thing is set up in AOS.
edited 10th Dec '14 2:09:23 PM by Mattonymy
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.

Not really, considering Cap's the only superhero in it. Iron Man 2 is more The Avengers 0.5.