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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
He may be outraged that he didn't even manage to kill Coulson. His entire motivation in the Avengers is a petty vengeance over humanity and everything in his path, by the end of the movie he accomplishes jack shit except for killing Phillip Coulson.
But then, he came back. Loki could be pissed off at Coulson still being alive more or less because he represents the colossal failure his Earth invasion was.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I mean, I can see why Coulson's survival might give him pause, he being the victim he interacted with the most, but not nearly to the extent suggested here.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.I don't think Loki would have any anger toward Coulson (or if he did, he wouldn't feel at all angered that Coulson somehow came back-from-the-dead).
Loki only seems to care about humans in terms of Thor. In The Avengers, he was pissed at Thor, and so took it out on him by attempting to conquer Earth- which he also saw as a consolation prize for his real desire of ruling Asgard.
In Thor 2, Loki seems to have an epiphany that Odin is his real enemy and correspondingly is friendly toward Thor- which by extension makes him friendlier toward (as Loki sees it) Thor's pet human, Jane. And by the end, Loki accomplishes his goal of ruling Asgard. So, I don't think he has any interest in causng trouble on Earth at this point, other than encouraging Thor there and sending Sif there in what is partly a wild-goose-chase.
But yeah, since Thanos is the Big Bad of the MCU, it's only a matter of time before he comes after Loki.
edited 8th Dec '14 10:21:48 AM by Hodor
Edit, edit, edit, edit the wikiThey're for the wrong eye though.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersNo, they wouldn't.
- STEVE: Didn't you die?
- COULSON: Didn't you hear that from Fury?
Five seconds of dialogue to Hand Wave it for those that haven't watched the show and you're set. Everyone in the audience already thought Fury was full of shit about Coulson's death when he had that exchange with Hill about the cards anyway; the real surprise in the show wasn't that he was alive, but that he had actually died, and even if you don't watch it, he featured prominently in the advertising.
They don't have to stretch to justify Coulson being in the movies because there is not a single person in the audience at this point in time who thinks he's dead.
EDIT: It's like arguing that Thor can't appear in any more Avengers movies because you'd have to recap the entire Dark World movie to justify his presence on Earth.
edited 8th Dec '14 12:40:23 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It works for comics...
"Editor's note: Confused why Coulson is alive when he died in Avengers #1? Check out Agents of Shield #11! 'Nuff said!"
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThere's no "sorta" about it. Fury DID lie. He lied his ass off about the cards and Hill called him on that lie onscreen. He openly admitted in the first movie that he was lying to motivate the Avengers.
It's not "shitty writing". It's what happened. Fury lied about the circumstances of Coulson's death, and Coulson is alive today. Both of these are 100% fact and are also all the audience needs to know to accept Coulson coming back to the movies. While there are certainly other factors, they're not factors an audience who hasn't watched the show need to have explained to them to accept Coulson coming back.
edited 8th Dec '14 12:58:01 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.....Meh. Whedon himself has reasoned that Coulson's return would eat up too much time to adequately explain because no "Fury lied I'm not dead" is not a satisfactory answer. I'm inclined to take his side on this since he's the one actually writing the damn movie and had a hand in the TV show.
edited 8th Dec '14 1:03:37 PM by comicwriter
As far as Agents of SHIELD explains, Fury didn't lie about that. Coulson did die, and was dead for a while (three days, IIRC). Fury didn't like about Coulson being killed, he lied about where his cards were as part of his ensuing guilt trip.
He didn't tell them about having a possible way of bringing him back to life, but there's a case to be made that they didn't need to know that. At that point, it's wouldn't be impossible to say that he was still mulling over whether to even use it or how to pull it off, since he knew it had dangerous psychotic side effects.
As much as I hate to admit it (because it means admitting that the important tv elements in general have an iffy future in the MCA as a whole), I understand where Whedon's coming from with that. No matter how briefly you explained it, Coulson suddenly showing up alive and dealing with it would draw away from the film (since the plot otherwise has nothing to do with him) and - since it's an issue that should get adequate attention given to it - would likely stop any plot progression dead and feel like a narrative ass pull (no matter how well the show explains it) to have the characters accept it without consequences or attention.
I say they hold off on a full reintroduction into the MCU for the Inhumans movie, since Ao S is starting to seriously tie into that mythos. Since the remnants of the Kree connected to the Inhumans's story are also responsible for his resurrection, he could be part of the exposition of that movie rather than a random external element being forced in.
edited 8th Dec '14 1:30:29 PM by KnownUnknown
No. I think that's the plot that would be most compliant to the concept of him being reintroduced, without feeling like an Ass Pull.
Isn't that a scene they would more than likely give Fury?
That said, the idea that maybe one of them would have Fury's support and the other one has Coulson's support is very interesting.
edited 8th Dec '14 1:44:56 PM by KnownUnknown
Al Pacino has apparently met with Marvel
and wants a role in the MCU.
...please tell me they've invented time travel and are in talks with the Al Pacino of the 70s
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

That confrontation screamed to me like the personification of But for Me, It Was Tuesday.