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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#23101: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:28:44 PM

Benedict got rave reviews in The imitation Game recently.

And come on, guys. It's not like he's a bad actor. The way people are responding to this, you'd think they'd gotten someone terrible.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23102: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:30:18 PM

I'd say it makes more sense for Brits to learn American accents than the inverse. It's becoming increasingly common to cast English actors in American productions (for a variety of reasons) while the inverse is far less common. You don't see too many Americans being cast as Brits but you see a lot of Brits being cast as Americans.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23103: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:31:20 PM

Mukora: It's more common than you think. Fake Brit and Fake American are tropes for a reason.

[up] That's because there's simply a greater volume of work in America. But as, say, a Canadian actor (hi there), it's a good idea to have both. I just did an RP British accent for a university show last week.

edited 4th Dec '14 5:32:26 PM by BadWolf21

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23104: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:33:13 PM

And come on, guys. It's not like he's a bad actor. The way people are responding to this, you'd think they'd gotten someone terrible.

It's more a few people in here want Pedro Pascal in every role in the MCU.

edited 4th Dec '14 5:38:55 PM by GethKnight

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#23105: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:33:46 PM

I get a little tired of the whole 'It's the end of the world if things don't go my way' shtick. I like Cumberbatch as an actor. I think River Phoenix would have been a more natural choice which is who they were going for first. The whole Pedro Pascal thing is kinda annoying in many ways at least to me.

I'm sure he's a good actor. I haven't seen anything he's done. Also, how do you know he hasn't been approached? What if he said no to them?

Anyway Cumberbatch will probably do a good job. Its apparently a very hard to cast for part and I can imagine why.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23106: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:36:39 PM

[up] River Phoenix would've been a great choice.

It's unfortunate that he died 20 years ago. :(

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23107: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:38:02 PM

I'm sure they mean Joaquin. But he turned them down because MCU wants actors that can stay committed to the role for several films or something.

edited 4th Dec '14 5:38:20 PM by GethKnight

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#23108: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:38:52 PM

Joaquin Phoenix then. I keep getting them confused in the worst possible way.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#23109: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:39:11 PM

Only issue I see with Cumberbatch is that my view of Strange is very colored by Dr. Orpheus, and the characters I've seen Cumberbatch play don't seem the same type of hammy as that.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23110: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:39:45 PM

[up][up][up] I know. Which is why I didn't correct him. River Phoenix was a phenomenal actor who we lost too soon.

edited 4th Dec '14 5:39:57 PM by BadWolf21

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23112: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:41:05 PM

Never seen a film with him so I'm gonna assume we believe as such due to his OD.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23114: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:44:40 PM

Oh, he was in that? Not big on Stephen King.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23115: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:47:34 PM

It's a rather atypical Stephen King story.

Wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#23116: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:52:11 PM

I'm really trying to chill out, it's just I'm so, so sick of Cumberbatch. He's in Star Trek, The Hobbit, Sherlock... plus all his super serious Oscar nomination films. I know I'm being irrationally peevish, but god I just want him to go away.

The MCU makes names, it shouldn't cast names (with RDJ as a weird exception; they were crucial in his comeback but he was obviously well known already).

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#23117: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:53:30 PM

I just heard about the Dr. Strange casting. Oh, goddammit. GODDAMMIT.

STOP GETTING YOUR CLAWS IN EVERY SINGLE FRANCHISE THAT I LIKE, CABBAGEPATCH. ugh.

Looks like I'm not seeing Dr. Strange, then.

edited 4th Dec '14 5:53:48 PM by higherbrainpattern

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23118: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:55:03 PM

Yeah, because no one knew who Edward Norton, Mark Ruffalo, Samuel L. Jackson or Scarlett Johansson were before the MCU. Or pretty much any of the Guardians who weren't Chris Pratt. And, for that matter, Chris Pratt had Hey Its That Guy recognition from Parks and Rec.

It's a mix.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23119: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:55:37 PM

he MCU makes names, it shouldn't cast names

I never heard of Samuel L. Jackson or Anthony Hopkins till Iron Man 2 and Thor came about.

[up]And [nja]

edited 4th Dec '14 5:56:11 PM by GethKnight

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#23120: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:57:10 PM

I just don't think Cumberbatch is going to be bombastic enough for what I imagine Dr. Strange to be. Like, he does villains well, but otherwise all his performances seem really dry to me.

Plus, he's yet another white guy.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23121: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:58:35 PM

The villains are almost always names, too. Jeff Bridges, Tim Roth, Mickey Rourke, Hugo Weaving, Guy Pearce, Christopher Eccleston, Josh Brolin, Robert freaking Redford...

[up] Complain about the hero, not the actor.

I'm still not clear why that's an okay thing to say. No one would think it was okay for Black Panther to be played by a Japanese man, so I'm not sure why it's borderline expected for Doctor Strange to get a Race Lift.

edited 4th Dec '14 6:00:00 PM by BadWolf21

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#23122: Dec 4th 2014 at 6:00:40 PM

[up]Lee Pace

Side characters are names too: Natalie Portman, Skarsguard, John C. Reily.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#23123: Dec 4th 2014 at 6:03:04 PM

I get that people are sick of Cumberbatch's overexposure, but is he really so bad that its worth dismissing the entire movie, which we know nothing about anyways?

Personally, I'm looking forward to it.

This song needs more love.
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23124: Dec 4th 2014 at 6:04:21 PM

Eh, Lee Pace is a rising star. I'm okay with not calling him a "name" yet.

But yeah, Hulk had Liv Tyler and William Hurt, Iron Man had Paltrow, Terrence Howard, (and later upgraded to Don Cheadle), First Avenger had Hayley Atwell, Tommy Lee Jones, and Stanley Tucci, and Guardians had Glenn Close. etc.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#23125: Dec 4th 2014 at 6:10:16 PM

[up][up]Exactly. And then on Tumblr you have people talking about how he takes roles that should go to POC, except that has only happened ONCE with Star Trek. It's not like it's a trend, and in Marvel's case it's kind of borderline.

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