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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23051: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:04:52 PM

I was under the impression he'd created a new one to replace Shield as part of the set-up for Age of Ultron.

Am I wrong on this?

One Strip! One Strip!
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23052: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:05:16 PM

I have heard nothing about this.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23053: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:07:30 PM

I'm unsure, since like I said, I haven't been keep up on developments of the movie in a while.

Could have sworn I read it somewhere though.

One Strip! One Strip!
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#23054: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:09:15 PM

I'd thought replacing SHIELD is what Ultron is supposed to be for.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#23055: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:12:06 PM

Given that we've been getting hints that he infiltrates Stark's systems, it's definitely possible that Ultron initially takes over one of Stark's designs before making his own body. Though I think it's more likely we'll get a situation like Earth's Mightiest Heroes' Ultron 5 bit (is that from the comics? It's pretty cool either way), where he pitches all the armors connected to Stark's network at our heroes to distract and/or murderize the Avengers while his actual self is elsewhere doing other stuff.

edited 2nd Dec '14 9:14:22 PM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23056: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:22:36 PM

@Handsome Rob is correct. It was one of the first pieces of info actually revealed about the plot.

If you’re part of a group that has already saved the world nine times, eventually you can’t help but wonder: Isn’t it somebody else’s turn?

Unfortunately, that kind of thinking directly leads to the latest global threat in Avengers: Age of Ultron, and Entertainment Weekly‘s Comic-Con 2014 preview gives you an exclusive First Look at the big, bad robot causing all the grief in next summer’s superhero team-up. The good guys are tired, S.H.I.E.L.D. has been destroyed, and there’s no one else for the planet to turn to when menace looms on the horizon. Everyone wants a break—and that’s exactly how they’re about to be broken. There’s no abdicating heroism.

“What you said about abdication is apt, but I think it’s also about recognizing limitations,” Robert Downey Jr. says. “The downside of self-sacrifice is that if you make it back, you’ve been out there on the spit and you’ve been turned a couple times and you feel a little burned and traumatized.”

For better or worse (trust us, it’s worse), his Tony Stark has devised a plan that won’t require him to put on the Iron Man suit anymore, and should allow Captain America, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and the Hulk to get some much needed R&R as well. His solution is Ultron, self-aware, self-teaching, artificial intelligence designed to help assess threats, and direct Stark’s Iron Legion of drones to battle evildoers instead.

The only problem? Ultron (played by James Spader through performance-capture technology) lacks the human touch, and his superior intellect quickly determines that life on Earth would go a lot smoother if he just got rid of Public Enemy No. 1: Human beings. “Ultron sees the big picture and he goes, ‘Okay, we need radical change, which will be violent and appalling, in order to make everything better’; he’s not just going ‘Muhaha, soon I’ll rule!’” Whedon says, rubbing his hands together.

“He’s on a mission,” the filmmaker adds, and smiles thinly. “He wants to save us.”

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/07/16/this-weeks-cover-avengers-age-of-ultron/

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#23057: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:22:37 PM

It was revealed in an earlier press statement that "Ultron" was just Stark activating dormant technology. He may have altered it, who knows.

I'm not going to go hunting for that specific statement, though, because I have exams to procrastinate for.

The suits in IM 3 were all destroyed at the end.

edited 2nd Dec '14 9:23:32 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#23058: Dec 2nd 2014 at 10:00:16 PM

Didn't the trailer show Ultron, in an Iron Man suit, crushing another Iron Man suit, and then unleashing a huge army of them?

edited 2nd Dec '14 10:00:34 PM by Tuckerscreator

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#23059: Dec 2nd 2014 at 10:06:16 PM

[up]yeah, that is went he star monoloing about strings, wild mass guessbecause he is a pinoquio fanwild mass guess

Also and just for fun:

  1. Ultron Save Us

  2. Shield Down

  3. Ultron Is Free

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
SilasW A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#23060: Dec 2nd 2014 at 10:48:31 PM

So I was watching the 2nd Age of Ultron trailer and noticed something, if you go frame by frame from 1:36 to 1:37 you'll notice that something flies right by the Hulkbuster armour, you can ever here it to.

I'm trying to work out what it is, Thor's Hammer?

Edit: Actually I think it might be two things, I think I can see two shadows go past int he background one after another.

edited 2nd Dec '14 10:49:31 PM by SilasW

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#23061: Dec 3rd 2014 at 3:13:07 AM

JARVIS isn't Ultron, JARVIS is Vision. tongue

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#23063: Dec 3rd 2014 at 8:04:06 AM

Speak of the... If Ultron is Robot Devil, does that make Vision robot Anti-Christ?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#23065: Dec 3rd 2014 at 9:06:30 AM

I am given hope for robo angst. Lookit his face

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#23066: Dec 3rd 2014 at 9:13:46 AM

I like the head design but I'm not fond of the torso, the designs look too faint. Might be the lighting though.

zam Since: Jun, 2009
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23069: Dec 3rd 2014 at 6:22:08 PM

Evangeline Lily seems to confirm that Janet was the MCU Wasp at some point.

And what’s cool is that, you know, Janet Van Dyne is my mom. Hank Pym is my father. I was raised by two superheroes. I’m no schlump. I’m a pretty smart, competent, capable, kick-ass female. She’s very cool.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#23070: Dec 3rd 2014 at 6:24:36 PM

I knew it. Or at least, I was really, really hoping for it.

Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23071: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:39:17 AM

Some Vision artwork.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/04/new-concept-art-of-vision-in-avengers-2-emerges

EDIT: [nja]'d

edited 4th Dec '14 5:39:46 AM by Beaver

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23072: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:27:26 PM

Krysten Ritter is confirmed as Jessica Jones, while Luke Cage is reportedly being played by Mike Colter.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#23073: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:32:08 PM

Neat!

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#23074: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:38:27 PM

THAT'S NOT HOW YOU SPELL TERRY CREWS GODDAMN IT.

My various fanfics.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#23075: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:46:26 PM

[up] Terry Crews is more of a comedic actor nowadays, anyway. Plus he's probably busy with Brooklyn Nine-Nine

edited 4th Dec '14 2:46:43 PM by higherbrainpattern


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