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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#22976: Nov 28th 2014 at 8:55:57 AM

Awesome, but Impractical.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22977: Nov 28th 2014 at 11:05:25 PM

Hugo Weaving has no idea if the Red Skull will be in Civil War but interestingly he seems a lot less negative about the idea than he was when asked about reprising the role in the past. It seemed a lot less like "I have no interest in doing another stupid action movie" and more like "I legitimately have no idea what they're doing".

edited 28th Nov '14 11:15:02 PM by comicwriter

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#22978: Nov 28th 2014 at 11:27:45 PM

It's kinda odd to think he didn't like to do blockbusters anymore, after this.

Man am I psyched for that movie. I hope Stark doesn't dominate it, though. I need my Cap and Sam fixes.

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#22981: Nov 29th 2014 at 2:53:46 AM

[up][up] IIRC, they're canonical to the Marvel Anime continuity, and only related to the MCU in the sense that their releases were intended to further hype up MCU movies (Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier, respectively).

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22982: Nov 29th 2014 at 3:00:33 AM

To me not even all the tie-in comics are necessarily canon...not if the movies contradict them.

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#22983: Nov 29th 2014 at 9:43:43 AM

I was disappointed with Black Widow and the Punisher

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22984: Nov 29th 2014 at 11:45:31 AM

They use some of the same designs but they definitely are not canon. There's too many inconsistencies.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22985: Nov 29th 2014 at 12:37:41 PM

Here's the Agent Carter TV spot.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#22986: Nov 29th 2014 at 12:49:12 PM

Bit nervous that they're promoting it as a miniseries. I hope there's a chance at a season order.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22987: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:15:37 PM

[up]Perhaps an additional eight episodes or so, but I somehow doubt that a movie-level actress would be ready to tie herself down to the usual 20-30 episode seasons. I have the feeling that we are lucky to even get the 8-parter.

edited 29th Nov '14 1:15:52 PM by swanpride

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#22988: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:16:32 PM

Can't wait to see the false-drama of her being held captive by an enemy!

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#22989: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:17:02 PM

She may use some proto-black widow tactics in that case?

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22990: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:23:11 PM

I don't think so...the tactic wouldn't really fit her. Black Widow is a really small woman (at least in the movies) and has no trouble to appear vulnerable, but Peggy walks like an officer and isn't really good in pretending to be anything else than badass. I can see Peggy deceiving someone with a smile, but I can't see her taking hits just to get information. plus, we already had the fake interrogation twice in the MCU.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#22991: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:26:13 PM

[up][up][up][up]Admittedly, I should've looked up Hayley Atwell's career before I said that. You're absolutely right.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22992: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:29:50 PM

[up] Well, the upside is that the Mini-series will fill the Ao S hiatus nicely. And who knows, if the concept works, perhaps they create some additional miniseries to fill some blanks.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#22993: Nov 29th 2014 at 5:26:44 PM

@ Trash Jack

IIRC, they're canonical to the Marvel Anime continuity, and only related to the MCU in the sense that their releases were intended to further hype up MCU movies (Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier, respectively).

Problem is, Marvel Anime has X Men in it, and Marvel gave away film rights to Fox. In fact, mutants aren't even mentioned. Also, Rise of Technovore came out after IM 3's premiere at Le Grand Rex on April 14, 2013, whereas Rise of Technovore came out two days after in America.

@ comicwriter

They use some of the same designs but they definitely are not canon. There's too many inconsistencies.

Okay, you got me with how the Helicarrier looked in the inside and the War Machine armor looking different, but aren't there these tidbits:

1. Stark's reaction when Pepper mentioned AIM and how that AIM "businessman" was familiar with Stark.

2. A lot of Captain America The Winter Soldier coming from this movie:

a. Stark being hunted down by SHIELD.

b. Plot involving weapons connected to satellites (with the World Security Council and HYDRA getting the idea of Project Insight from "Howard").

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#22994: Nov 30th 2014 at 12:12:56 AM

Agent Carter was always meant to fill the gap left by Agents of SHIELD's midseason hiatus. It's a miniseries in the same vein that Sherlock is a miniseries. The season will be a self-contained story, and if it comes back for another season, it would presumably be another, different self-contained story.

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22995: Nov 30th 2014 at 3:26:59 AM

I quite like Miniseries...no storylines which get dragged out, or frizzle away into nothing, just good old storytelling but in a format which allows more intricate world building and detailed character development than a movie.

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#22997: Nov 30th 2014 at 9:25:57 AM

Hahaha, aww.
Promises, promises.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#22999: Nov 30th 2014 at 12:18:47 PM

[up] It's probably for the best that he didn't get a movie then. If it flopped, it could have greatly harmed the image of the character (re: Howard the Duck). If it was a success, the studio that had the rights would probably still have them.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#23000: Nov 30th 2014 at 12:22:02 PM

Look at that fucking Iron Fist logo. That is the goofiest shit.

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