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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22876: Nov 24th 2014 at 6:11:23 AM

There is the whole technical stuff connected to those two companies. Marvel and DC I actually see as a minor problem because, well, it's basically only books and franchises. There is not really much of a limit how many publishing companies or franchises one can own.

Disney and Time Warner are competing with each other on so many levels (Animation, movies, Media, Themeparks), every transaction between them should be difficult.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#22877: Nov 24th 2014 at 7:50:56 AM

Batman has met Iron Man before.

They attend the same opium bar for one.

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GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#22878: Nov 24th 2014 at 7:52:53 AM

There's also the weekly money fights.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#22879: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:08:18 AM

I presume they interacted during JLA/Avengers although I don't remember that miniseries very well.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#22880: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:18:22 AM

They did interact but Batman had more interaction with Captain America.

I think Iron Man teamed up with Green Lantern to make an awesome spaceship but I don't recall.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#22881: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:29:49 AM

I don't claim to be an expert in the current state of the comic book industry, but I highly doubt it would be able to handle the juggernaut that is a Marvel-DC merge. It wouldn't be a monopoly but it would be damn close.

However, if there's any benefit to such, it would be due to the chance to resurrect the Amalgam Universe. Because this is a thing that needs to exist again.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#22882: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:47:55 AM

Amalgam with newer characters added in too would be pretty cool.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22883: Nov 24th 2014 at 9:53:21 AM

Only if we get better amalgams. I think Iron Bat is a more appropriate choice than whatever Batman+Wolverine were supposed to be for a start.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#22885: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:07:01 AM

<NVM what this first part was. It wasn't true.>

Tim Drake and Jubilee fused together. After having a surprisingly adorable crossover relationship. That might've been awkward had they found out about it afterwards...

edited 24th Nov '14 10:08:37 AM by KnownUnknown

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#22886: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:08:57 AM

It would make more sense for Batman/Iron Man to be merged. Clark and Rogers. Wonder Woman and Natasha.

edited 24th Nov '14 10:09:16 AM by GethKnight

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22887: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:09:35 AM

I would love to try to do so much better.

Bruce Stark of Stark Enterprises, whose family were tech moguls that specialized in weapons, killed by their own tech in the hands of the enemy on an overseas demonstration. Alfred Jarvis raised him from then on and bent on vengeance, he turned himself into a weapon to be feared, a warning to all that date raise a weapon to harm the innocent: The Iron Bat.

And the Iron Bat family including the the Crimson Warbird (Crimson Dynamo/Red Robin), Warwing (War Machine/Nightwing), and Black Rescue (Batgirl/Rescue).

[up]I'm thinking Wonder Woman and Thor. Or as my friend and I call her "Thunder Woman".

edited 24th Nov '14 10:10:51 AM by MousaThe14

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#22888: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:12:58 AM

That would fit better, since they've got similar origins. Being god-like and all.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#22889: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:14:34 AM

...Peter Reyes. The Blue Bolas. Teenage bug-themed superhero with alien-symbiote based villains and a redheaded girl with an abusive parent in his supporting cast.

(Man, I have a type, don't I?)

edited 24th Nov '14 10:15:16 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#22890: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:17:56 AM

It's almost a crime to not fuse a Green Lantern with a Nova. The Green Nova!

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22891: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:18:57 AM

@Wack'd, Great minds think alike. my friend Nic and I thought the exact same thing. And as for the previous Blue Beetles, well the Tedd Kord and Garett Beetles will be amalgamated with Moon Knight and Daredevil.

And don't worry, we both have that type...

edited 24th Nov '14 10:19:20 AM by MousaThe14

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kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#22892: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:22:47 AM

Oh my god Peter Reyes would be awesome.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22893: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:27:17 AM

So awesome! Imagine the suit Tony had made for Peter and now throw this stuff into the design and tell me Peter Reyes wouldn't be the bossest thing around!

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#22894: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:42:09 AM

Didn't Steve Ditko create the original Blue Beetle? Because that'd work even better!

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#22895: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:46:26 AM

Maybe but the original Blue Beetle doesn't have much connection to Jaime.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22896: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:53:59 AM

Which is why in his infinite blandness I chose the original to be combined with Moon Knight. I just can't decide if he'll be called Blue Knight or Blue Moon.

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22898: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:10:22 AM

I might like him once I get to know him. When was the last time he did anything? Or had a consistent surname?

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#22899: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:32:54 AM

They are two different characters, one reincarnated from the other. (Also I don't think the former is in any DC continuity.)

Dan Garret was a cop who took a drug called X-9 which gave him superpowers. He died and woke up one morning as Dan Garrett with a note by his bedside telling him not to screw up this time. I mostly know him from the hilariously cheesy radio show they made about him.

Dan Garrett's story is pretty much covered by the Rogers Blue Beetle stuff. I have his vintage first issue in which he fights a giant mummy. Fun stuff.

Neither have much personality, admittedly.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#22900: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:53:00 AM

My favorite thing about the Amalgam universe is Paste Pot Pete + Matter-Eater Lad. Paste Eater.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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