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That's also fair. But I guess that's why I'm more tired of her already than I am of Loki.
Yeah, Loki's in a lot of things, but he proved himself to be a fairly multi-faceted and interesting character basically right off the bat. So when I hear he's going to be in these upcoming movies, I'm genuinely interested in where they're taking his character.
But since Peggy's yet to prove herself as such an established character, it gets kind of irritating that Marvel's planning so many cameos for her on top of a miniseries. It's sort of a cart before the horse, "trust us, this character is great" type thing, but as I've yet to really see it with what she's appeared in so far it feels a little much. Just my perspective, obviously. And I'm fairly ticked about the lack of something Black Widow centered, so that's probably part of it.
edited 17th Nov '14 10:46:48 PM by khfan429
Regarding Loki: He is simply a great character. Period. And I don't think that he is "stealing the spotlight" from anyone, at least not in terms of screen-time. Because when it gets down to it, he doesn't really get that much, not even in The Avengers when he is the main villain (not that I think he needs more, but some people are acting as if the movies featuring him are only about him and nobody else). He is just more interesting than the majority of the other characters.
And naturally he has been around in the next Thor movie (especially after the way the last one ended) and in Age of Ultron. There are still aspects to solve concerning his storyline, I would feel cheated if the writer's didn't do it.
I also don't get the claim that there is too much Loki. He was only in three movies so far, two are coming.
Concerning Agent Carter: She is an integral part of Steve's past. And in integral part in the history of Shield, which I think is very interesting. I can't wait for the mini-series, and I certainly don't mind a cameo from her.
@Loki in IW(we knew he would be in Thor 3 already): ...I'm kind of really hoping he doesn't take Mephisto's place from the original storyline like the me and Tobias talked about. In a perfect world Loki would die in Ragnarok, be reborn as a(mostly) innocent kid in the stinger and then be captured by Thanos when he goes to get the remaining Gems in Infinity War leading to Thor to have a personal reason to fight Thanos since he wants to get his kid brother back.
Of course Kid!Loki can never happen in the MCU since the Asgardians don't have the same kind of afterlife as the 616 universe so that was never going to happen.
edited 18th Nov '14 3:01:53 AM by LordofLore
just saw Guardians of the Galaxy. pretty good movie; i enjoyed it.
am i correct in assuming the orb is the Space Gem?
edited 18th Nov '14 5:02:40 AM by crimsonstorm15
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Power Gem, I think. The colors are different. The Tesseract appears to be the Space Gem, and it seems the Aether was the Reality Gem.
weird, i thought the Power Gem was red. but yeah, i can see the Tesseract as the Space Gem. i take it the thing in Loki's staff in the Avengers movie is the Mind Gem?
All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
I suppose it could be, but it might just have been powered by the Tesseract. We'll see...
Loki:*Arrow on his towel as he comes out of the shower and explodes
Loki:*Arrows pour out of bowl of cereal and explodes*
Loki:*Turns page in book. arrow. You know the rest*
Loki: *Finds a bundle of arrows in his cot. Flinches. Nothing happens. relieved and walks out the door to throw away the arrows.*
Hawkeye: *Standing right in the door with an arrow pointed at Loki's face*
Loki: Oh just get it over wit-*'splosion*
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Thirded.
> Mephisto isn't established yet
> Seven more movies between now and Infinity War begins
I'm gonna say don't count your chickens before they hatch. Yeah, most of those aren't likely to feature an appearance by Mephisto, but they could. Doctor Strange especially.
And that's not even considering the fact that Mephisto could appear for the first time in Infinity War. Doctor Strange opens the door for a lot of more mystical beings to show up without having to explain them too much.
I figured they would have Loki die in Infinity War, and then be reborn in the end as a kid or something - possibly due to the Infinity Gems. And then that would be his last appearance. Kind of a "now we have a chance to start over and look to the future" kind of open-ended closure.
Though if they make a new tv show at that point, I wouldn't put it past them to put Kid Loki in that.
edited 18th Nov '14 9:28:36 AM by KnownUnknown

They're apparently setting her up as the next Nick Fury. Or maybe the first Nick Fury. She, along with Howard, ran SHIELD back in the day. So anything that deals with SHIELD back in the day would likely involve her in some way, which explains her appearing in things that deal with SHIELD's history: we know Pym used to work with SHIELD, and we know a decent portion of Ant-Man is flashbacks to Pym's life, so Peggy appearing in his backstory makes sense. Agents of SHIELD delves into SHIELD's history, so Peggy appears briefly. The only one that stumped me was Ultron, but then the running theory is that Scarlet Witch puts the heroes through some kind of memory/illusion/thingamajig, which given Cap explains her appearing there as well.
As for Agent Carter, it's the "backstory of SHIELD" feature I've been waiting for for a while - and which I was especially psyched for after the Agent Carter short (here's hoping they continue expanding on Zodiac). I figured that whatever story they did on that subject would be a movie, but a tv show works too.
edited 17th Nov '14 10:47:51 PM by KnownUnknown