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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#22551: Nov 12th 2014 at 6:47:43 PM

In a surprising twist, she turns out to be playing actress Kim Soo-hyun, who's always wanted to meet Thor and has been collecting autographs throughout the party.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#22552: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:15:52 PM

A day or so late, but on the "Tim = Evil" front, Curry also provided the voice for Melek from Wing Commander III, who while just an adviser was on the side of the villains.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#22553: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:28:45 PM

Okay, enough of my repetitive gloominess.

Anyways, with the recently released Extended trailer for Ao U, do you think it has a chance to usurp the original's box office gross?

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#22555: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:46:56 PM

Wasn't one of the few vague hints we got about her that she is apparently playing someone less than heroic?

Until the bitter end, I'll be hanging onto the almost entirely unlikely theory from waaaaaaaaaay back that she's playing a Gender Lifted pre-accident Radioactive (Wo)Man.

edited 12th Nov '14 7:49:47 PM by KnownUnknown

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#22556: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:50:45 PM

Why don't the Avengers and the Fantastic Four merge teams? There's safety in numbers. And there's precedent too, Spider-Man joined the Fantastic Four.

edited 12th Nov '14 7:51:02 PM by CassidyTheDevil

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#22557: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:52:09 PM

Because they wouldn't be the Fantastic Four then.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#22558: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:52:39 PM

I don't think all the Avengers want to wear blue.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#22559: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:54:23 PM

The Fantastic Four (Plus Five or Six).

If FF was integrated in the MCU, post-Civil War I could see Reed as the new technology lynchpin of the universe while Stark is busy ruling the world enforcing registration.

edited 12th Nov '14 7:54:34 PM by KnownUnknown

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#22560: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:55:06 PM

They were the Future Foundation, not Fantastic Four, when Spidey joined, so there's that.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#22561: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:56:58 PM

I dunno if Marvel can really incorporate the FF into anything at this point, since every aspect that defines the FF in the Marvel Universe is being carried out by someone else in the MCU.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#22562: Nov 12th 2014 at 7:57:03 PM

Man am I nervous in terms of the upcoming Civil War storyline, since it essentially destroyed Iron Man's reputation till the 2008 film (thanks Mark Millar).

I sincerely hope that for the movie, they don't turn him into a borderline evil Jerkass.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22565: Nov 12th 2014 at 9:12:56 PM

[up]And they've already confirmed it won't be an exact adaptation anyway and that the central issue will be different.

Until the bitter end, I'll be hanging onto the almost entirely unlikely theory from waaaaaaaaaay back that she's playing a Gender Lifted pre-accident Radioactive (Wo)Man.

"The goggles! They do nothing!"

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#22567: Nov 13th 2014 at 7:32:49 AM

Since it's Cap's movie that Civil War is happening in, I expect Iron Man to be an extremely difficult hurdle for Cap to overcome; the Implacable Man that shrugs off everything and keeps on coming until finally, at the film's end, Cap manages to pull off a desperate, near-miraculous victory against the substantially more powerful foe through clever use of urban warfare tactics, the environment, and what tools he has to work with.

Which will somehow be interpreted by the fanbase as "Captain America can totally beat Iron Man in a fight any time. Didn't you see the movie?" Like the people who interpret the "Put the hammer down" scene from Avengers as Cap defeating Thor.

edited 13th Nov '14 7:35:00 AM by TobiasDrake

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#22568: Nov 13th 2014 at 7:47:42 AM

@Cassidy, The FF and the Avengers don't really merge teams because ultimately their goals are entirely different. The Fantastic Four are explorers and scientists and a family first. Their whole "fighting evil and supervillainy" isn't really their thing, it's more of a side affect of the lives they lead seeking new discoveries and scientific advances.

The Avengers are basically a "When the world is in peril you can always count on us to unite and fight for the common good" The FF will drop in to help out but ultimately it's not their division. Members will occasionally join, most commonly the Thing who has a tendency to run off and do his own thing anyway but ultimately it's not what they do.

@Tobias, Man, people just never think about these things logically. In a straight up one on one where they're trying to take the other down, it seems pretty clear that despite how great Captain America is, he still pales in the powers of Thor and the tech of iron. He can use that fancy shield all he wants but he's not bullet-proof. Definitely bullet resistant, but enough explosions or shocks to the system and he's down. He's peak human, not a god, and all his military training and out of the box thinking will give him an edge, but not a victory unless he has help.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#22569: Nov 13th 2014 at 9:33:12 AM

Anyone can beat anyone in a fight in Marvel, if the circumstances dictate.

Ant-Man has soloed the Avengers before.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#22570: Nov 13th 2014 at 10:41:58 AM

Except no one can beat Squirrel Girl.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22572: Nov 13th 2014 at 12:12:29 PM

[up][up]I love her precisely because of how much she pisses everyone off.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#22574: Nov 13th 2014 at 12:56:22 PM

Squirrel Girl was beaten by Luke Cage's spider-powered baby.

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#22575: Nov 13th 2014 at 1:07:33 PM

"Why, what's [REDACTED as per @post #22527]?" Does research. Wow, I'm SO glad I was living under a rock those months.

ANYWAY, I've been trying to read up on Ultron for the new film, but since all glory to the known universe Joss Whedon said that it's not based on anything, I'm stumped on where to start - if at all.

Sorry to ask for another rec, but anyone got suggestions? So far I've been following his exploits on Marvel's Avengers:EMH.

edited 13th Nov '14 1:11:22 PM by Mattonymy

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