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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
@Swanpride, it's probably more accurate to say that their movies aren't outright financial failures. Bad is subjective. Mostly. Like from my perspective they have had outright bad ones. Just not many outright bad ones. I mean 7/10 is still a good record as far as the film industry is concerned and even the bad ones have had things in them to enjoy.
edited 12th Nov '14 5:08:54 AM by MousaThe14
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For me, they have three remarkable good ones (Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers), two which are good, though I see room for improvements (Iron Man and The First Avenger) and five which are a little bit of a mixed bag, but there is nothing on the level of "Batman and Robin" or "Spider-man 3" in their line-up. And that is honestly remarkable. The only other franchise which kept a decent level for so long is the Harry Potter one, on the merit of being based on really good movies, and I would call none of those movies "outstanding" or "great". But Marvel has reached that level, and the fact that they have only gotten better instead of worse makes me hopeful that they might be able to keep it up for a while.
Marvel managed a new record. I mean a 10 movie franchise and not one single outright bad movie in it? No franchise ever managed that!
Hey! What about Pixa - Oh wait you said Franchise? Nevermind.
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.Some DC characters COULD lend themselves to a good, solid origin story if the filmmakers were willing to take their time with it. Green Lantern's biggest problem was trying to be both a movie AND its own sequel in a single film.
But overall, I agree that Marvel characters frequently have more complicated origins; in fact, Word of God is that this is the entire reason why the mutants exist as a species. Stan Lee invented the mutant race for X-Men because he wanted to write a superhero team comic and didn't want to have to think up separate complicated origin stories for each member of the group, so he was all like, "Screw it, there's a Superpower Gene, some people are just born with powers."
The colossal X-Men franchise spanning so many books that it could rival the entire rest of the Marvel Comics universe is probably the most successful thing ever to be born out of sheer, unadulterated laziness.
edited 12th Nov '14 7:33:37 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Late reply but I thought I'd give my two-cents since I've been following Bendis' comics for like a decade.
He works best when he gets to play in his own toybox. Bendis is like the Anti-Geoff Johns in that while Johns work is full of Continuity Porn, Bendis will retcon or completely ignore stuff in favor of what he wants to write. So in cases of smaller or AU titles like his Daredevil run and Ultimate Spider-Man, it works in his favor.
But when he does it to stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and The Avengers...yeah.
That's the beauty of a cinematic universe. Its all the same franchise but you can jump around between storylines rather than just doing the same thing over and over. And if something doesn't work, it can be ditched without tanking the franchise.
Its really more of a meta-franchise with lots of baby remora franchise nestling in its belly.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersDoes Tim Blake Nelson do television at all? Because Agents of SHIELD might be a good place to bring the Leader back.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.I had a theory that he was the Clairvoyant for a while.
I was a fool.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Do you also wear floral-print dresses?
(Honestly I was more disappointed that Garrett showed up so close to the reveal so it didn't have as much impact as it might've. And making Ward another double-agent was a smart character move but robbed us of the one guy we might've been able to vicariously feel that betrayal through. I like Triplet well enough but he also showed up super-close to the reveal.)
edited 12th Nov '14 10:11:48 AM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.![]()
Well I'll admit did' used to be a Hawaiian shirt guy in my younger days...
I do agree it felt too close to the reveal. As I watched it, I was getting struck with "Dammit, you guys did not have enough episodes for this." If they had had more time to develop this guy and have the reveal later on...
I partially blame them doing Agents of SHIELD too early but if they didn't have those episode to establish the cast then the suspicion we would have after the HYDRA reveal would be empty since we don't get to know the cast as well.
Man, Ao S had a lot of corners to write out of, didn't it?
I take it this guy is some kind of well known actor person?
Personally, I think AOS being so... oddly paced until the Hydra reveal was brilliant. A dumb move for a show that needs ratings, but brilliant from a storytelling perspective. Here you have this fun, but otherwise kinda forgettable monster of the week show, and right at the end, bam, everything changes.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."![]()
Tim Roth was Blonsky. Tim Blake Nelson was Leader. ;)
"he played the villainous matinee idol-cum-Nazi spy" Yes, even him.
edited 12th Nov '14 10:43:20 AM by MadSkillz

I just realized something...Marvel managed a new record. I mean a 10 movie franchise and not one single outright bad movie in it? No franchise ever managed that! Most of them decline in quality after the first movies, not improve with movie nine and ten.