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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#22351: Nov 8th 2014 at 2:54:24 PM

Apparently they are still in negotiations. Plus, if I remember correctly, the shooting schedule for Sherlock ensures that he will be busy next year. While Sherlock is not so time consuming that it can't be combined with anything else, it might be a spanner in the works nevertheless.

edited 8th Nov '14 2:54:48 PM by Swanpride

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22352: Nov 8th 2014 at 3:06:03 PM

I still find it odd that T'Challa has been cast, despite his debut happening after Doctor Strange...which still hasn't had its lead announced yet.

Joaquin Phoenix was the front runner for a long while and only balked at the last minute. It's possible he was in negotiations at the same time Chadwick Boseman was, but it just fell apart.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#22353: Nov 8th 2014 at 9:14:02 PM

[up] As much as I liked the idea of him playing Strange, did we ever hear confirmation from him or Marvel that it was even happening?

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#22354: Nov 8th 2014 at 9:28:24 PM

I believe we heard when talks fell through.

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#22355: Nov 9th 2014 at 10:56:27 AM

[up][up]When the deal fell through a couple of sites like Deadline and Hollywood Reporter talked about it. Apparently he wanted to be in the film but balked at having to sign on for sequels and crossovers because he has a busy schedule.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#22356: Nov 9th 2014 at 8:56:47 PM

The way I heard it, it was because he's never done a big-budget, effects-heavy film before. He didn't want to sign on for six or whatever before he'd even done one, because he didn't even know if it was something he could do.

Kind of the opposite of Robert Redford in The Winter Soldier, who said in interviews that the reason he did the movie was because he wasn't familiar with acting in an effects-heavy movie and wanted to experience it.

Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#22357: Nov 9th 2014 at 9:37:23 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations on what to read from the 08 Guardians characters printing? Currently re reading Infinity War and would love to follow it up with one of theirs.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#22358: Nov 9th 2014 at 9:59:15 PM

[up]Annihilation: Conquest is very good and introduces the modern Guardians. Bonus points: also features Ultron.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#22359: Nov 10th 2014 at 1:54:15 AM

The 2008 run is being reprinted in a two volume "Complete Collection". The first volume should be out already. After you read that, The Thanos Imperative (the Grand Finale for the 2008 Guardians) is available as a separate volume.

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#22360: Nov 10th 2014 at 6:37:04 AM

Just don't read anything written by Brian Michael Bendis, whatever you do. This applies to literally anything the man has written outside of Ultimate Spider-Man. It's all garbage, because he doesn't like playing with other kid's toys, so he makes up his own rules.

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#22362: Nov 10th 2014 at 7:11:28 AM

Truth this man speaks the truth.

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#22364: Nov 10th 2014 at 7:24:31 AM

Meh. Personally, I think Bendis's Avengers and X-Men titles are spectacular. His Guardians less so, but still entertaining.

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#22365: Nov 10th 2014 at 7:24:40 AM

His X-Men books are pretty good imho (well, up to Battle of the Atom at least, haven't read any further).

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#22366: Nov 10th 2014 at 7:35:22 AM

*hugs Tobias* Oh thank you, god!

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#22367: Nov 10th 2014 at 7:55:23 AM

I for the most part enjoy Bendis' work outside the gratuitous Yiddish from every character short of Thor.

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#22368: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:25:22 AM

I thought that was just a thing New Yorkers did. You know, the Yiddish thing.

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#22369: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:26:50 AM

Totally N00b here, who's this Bendis joker anyway? Is he as fan- horrific as Quesada?

Also thanks for the reqs guys!

edited 10th Nov '14 8:27:18 AM by Mattonymy

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#22370: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:31:33 AM

[up][up]Star Lord and Captain Marvel aren't New Yorkers. The latter is from Boston and the former is from Kentucky or something.

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#22371: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:45:32 AM

YOU TAKE THAT BACK MATTY! BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS MADE ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN WHICH WAS AN AMAZING RUN AND PRACTICALY THE ONLY GOOD THING TO COME OUT OF THE ULTIAMTE COMICS UNIVERSE.

AND HE DID A GOOD RUN ON THE NEW AVENGERS TOO.

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#22372: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:50:22 AM

But his run on Go TG has been one of the most abhorrent in all comics history.

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#22373: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:55:27 AM

I wouldn't know, I've never read it. That's just what I keep hearing from the rest of you guys in this thread.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#22374: Nov 10th 2014 at 8:59:58 AM

His work on X-Men is alright, Ultimate Spider-Man is good from what I've read but his Guardians of the Galaxy is trash. He works great when he can create new casts of characters but he sucks at using others characters if they don't fit his style.

He also wrote Disassembled and House of M which should speak for itself.

Also, his explanation for Drax, Quill and Thanos being back in the 616 universe makes no sense.

I wouldn't call him an awful writer but his quality is too inconsistent for my tastes. Give me Fraction, Gillen or Deconnick any day.

edited 10th Nov '14 9:11:56 AM by LordofLore

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#22375: Nov 10th 2014 at 9:13:29 AM

Bendis's run on Guardians has been entertaining for me, but I qualify that with the statement that I have no frame of reference; the much-beloved 2008 run began shortly before I got out of comics for a time and ended before I came back - I left around Secret Invasion and returned around Fear Itself - while earlier runs predate my comic-reading history, and I generally don't read older comics because I've tried reading older comics and found them largely unreadable - comic writers have steadily been improving on their overexpository dialogue, but it's still a problem even today.

I read bits of the 2008 run before I left, and I particularly liked most elements that did not have anything to do with Adam Warlock, so I can see how Bendis's run is a bit of a let-down in comparison. It's still not bad by any means.

edited 10th Nov '14 9:14:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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