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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Yes and no. It's obviously a huge deal storywise but it's not a visceral 'that's so cool, awesome to watch' memorable moment like him ragdolling Loki about in the first one.
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Edited by dcutter2 on Aug 3rd 2022 at 8:34:46 PM
It could well be the fourth. After all, Spider-Island was a vehicle to unwrite the memory spell that No Way Home borrowed some of its inspiration from.
For non-comic reader context, the way Strange's memory spell worked in the comics was that it erased every person's memory of Peter Parker being Spider-Man and applied a magical barrier around that knowledge. Because of Strange's spell, people could not figure out for themselves that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, no matter what. Magic forbid anyone from ever making that connection.
The one and only way that Peter's identity could be revealed was if Peter himself revealed it. If he pulled off his mask and said, "I'm Peter Parker," for example. Or if he told someone who knew him as Peter straight-up, "I'm Spider-Man." Without him specifically making that leap, the deduction could simply not be made by other people. Magic would preserve his secret in perpetuity.
So, obviously, that fucking sucks because it defeats the main narrative purpose of a secret identity: to build drama around preserving the secret. If no one can ever learn his secret, then all kinds of stories about his secret can't be told. What's even the point? How do you build tension from "Oh no, what if they find out," when magic says they can't find out.
Spider-Island was the antidote to this parasitic writing decision. The Jackal (who still desperately needs a film debut) duplicated Spider-Man's abilities and created an epidemic of Spider-men. He infected the entire city of Manhattan and turning everyone into Spider-people, including many superheroes.
During this, Peter seized on the opportunity to take lead and help people by broadcasting himself on the news as one of the many people with spider-powers and rallying spider-folks to help solve the conflict. Long story short, Jackal was defeated and all was fine and dandy.
Right up until Dr. Strange strolled up and told Peter, "So. Uh. You just went on a live news broadcast and went, 'I'm Peter Parker and I'm Spider-Man.' It was very clever and no one will think that you're the actual Spider-Man. But you should know that for the purposes of the spell, that counts as you unmasking to the entire planet. All magical protections around your secret identity are kaput. Good luck with that."
As a One More Day adaptation, No Way Home left Peter with a different magical effect surrounding his identity. But if they do intend to ultimately re-person Peter Parker, it would be fitting for Spider-Island to be the way they do it.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 3rd 2022 at 12:45:09 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I've always thought they should be doing that whole run at each other thing and have Hulk stop short and do his thunderclap move, knocking over the front rank and giving the hero's change the advantage.
He only had one functional arm in that battle. Kinda hard to knock people over with the sound of one hand clapping.
This, yes. On paper, OMD did exactly one thing: It cosmically annulled Peter and MJ's marriage. All other events remained the same; Nothing throughout Spider-history changed except the terminology used to describe the relationship that the two characters had. Which is why Peter Parker has an intact secret identity, and Harry Osborn's alive!
...So, obviously, that's a headscratcher. "Absolutely nothing except the marriage has changed" and those two things don't exactly mesh. So it was later revealed that, offscreen after OMD, Peter went to Dr. Strange and had him perform a global memory spell that wiped all trace of his secret identity from the minds of everyone, everywhere.
There was also a later revealed "At some point offscreen" explanation for Harry's revival too.
Suffice it to say, OMD sucked and I have no idea why it was chosen for an MCU film adaptation, save for Kevin Feige inexplicably seeking to adapt the worst possible storylines to film.
I look forward to the next Spider-Man trilogy being a long and complex adaptation of the Clone Saga.
Tom Holland pulling triple duty as Peter Parker, Ben Reilly, and Kaine. Which one's the real Spider-Man!? The answer may surprise you!
(Along with Ultimate Jessica Drew, played by Tom Holland in a wig.)
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 3rd 2022 at 1:05:45 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'm legit going to be mad if Ben Reilly makes his live-action debut before Miles Morales does.
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You joke, but there are some parts of the internet that would KILL for a movie that is just Tom Holland acting against himself in different character archetypes, especially one as a girl.
But I don't think we need Clone Saga, we already got Spider-Man acting against other Spider-Men in No Way Home.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 3rd 2022 at 1:10:35 AM
The first Spidey comics I read where the reprints of clone saga in the Uk's Astonishing Spider-Man line. Specifically the last two parts of Revelations or something. Where Reilly's love interest Tyne goes back to jail and read through at least to the end of the Clone Saga, even as far as The Gathering Of Five before petering off
Anyway, tl;dr I do have an fondness for Ben Reilly because of that.
One of my first comics ever was actually the Kaine Scarlet Spider series in the early 2010s where he operated in Texas for a time.
Good stuff, it’s why I always have a fondness for Kaine as well and why it annoys me the recent Spider stuff has been completely ignoring him.
Which considering what’s happened to Ben then may be a blessing in disguise…….
Edited by slimcoder on Aug 3rd 2022 at 1:17:23 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Hank Pym is the absolute worst in that regard in my opinion. Could you imagine how revolutionary the Pym Particles could be for construction, maintenance and transportation services for society?
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."He invented quick and useful portal technology but a villain hijacked it once so Hank totally abandoned it and then died and then super died.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers"awesome to watch' memorable moment like him ragdolling Loki about in the first one."
Beyond it being a funny scene, there is not much merit in beating such a physically weak villain.
I think the best Hulk scene in the first Avengers would be beating a leviathan with one punch.
Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Aug 3rd 2022 at 3:41:04 AM
*2. My point is that beating up Loki is something any guy with super-strength could have done. (Even Loki had problems with the Captain America)
So the Hulk destroying a leviathan and fighting Thor are more impressive feats.
Also, is awesome moment for the Hulkbuster, who is a jobber in the comics.
Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Aug 3rd 2022 at 3:54:41 AM
i mean cool but it doesn't alter my point in anyway. Because it wasn't that it was an impressive feat in universe just a very memorable scene.
The leviathan scene is another very good example though I agreee.
hulkbuster should lose. There's no point in having stark's armour be able to out do another heroes at their own wheelhouse.
I guess also it's partly because mcu hulk seems to lack 'the angriee hulk gets the stronger hulk gets' aspect.
Edited by dcutter2 on Aug 3rd 2022 at 12:08:02 PM

Largely his only act of significance really, to be a meat shield for the gauntlet to work
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."