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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#145376: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:26:58 PM

You didn't think you can just slip "Tony Stank" by me, did you?

EDIT: Goddamnit.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 28th 2022 at 10:27:21 AM

Snoketrope Barb / Temporary Kylo from California Since: Oct, 2020 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#145377: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:48:30 PM

I feel like Doom should be funny, atleast at times, just not in the way usual quippy MCU characters are.

He should be funny in more of the way of how gloriously hammy he is, moments where he would be funny would be like the 'Take a Potato chip, and eat it!' scene from Death Note. Or like M Bison from the street fighter movie.....

Whoever plays Doom should 100% base their performance on Raul Julia's Bison, I feel like that is exactly how Doom should be.

Hail Vox Populi!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145378: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:50:04 PM

As said the humor should fit the character.

If you try to force the generic MCU qup-fest onto every character, it becomes forced and cringe as Hell.

Just like that time Doom called Carol a cow.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Snoketrope Barb / Temporary Kylo from California Since: Oct, 2020 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#145379: Jul 28th 2022 at 11:17:49 PM

Somewhat relevant, this bit of Doom and Namor from the comics where Doom uses the sea horn

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/w6jtp/dr_doom_is_the_purest_representation_of_evil_i/

Cannot wait for this scene in Black Panther 2

Edited by Snoketrope on Jul 28th 2022 at 11:18:40 AM

Hail Vox Populi!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#145380: Jul 28th 2022 at 11:31:04 PM

I like to imagine it's just an ordinary ceremonial horn, and Doom just had to immediately grab it and use it not as part of some evil plan, but because he forgot to take his Anafranil that morning.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145381: Jul 28th 2022 at 11:47:07 PM

They also had dinner together, where Doom gives a speech that says everything about himself

Namor: Yes. All men. But all of this… is just for the three of us. Are there not people in Latveria with whom we might share it? As— whats the saying? You can’t take it with you.”

Doom: I must say, this newfound tenor is quite a departure for you. Especially considering you—and your friends—set yourselves above all other men. So… is it sincerity speaking or is this your fall?

Namor: It’s a time of change. Victor.

Doom: That’s the sentiment of a plutocrat, Namor. The sentiment of the underserving nouveau riche who fall backwards into money and therefore power. We are not that… We are aristocrats. We were born better. You think that if every man, woman and child in my country didn’t want to take this food from my table, they couldn’t? Tell me, which do you think is closer to truth: That they look up at Castle Doom and believes its walls are beyond being torn down, or that they would lay down their very lives to see them stand for all time? I love my people—I do—But they are… My people. I keep them safe from harm. I give them a better life. And at night, before they sleep, to whatever God they pray, they give thanks for me. So, yes, Doom eats first… And he eats the very best. You used to understand this.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#145382: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:05:53 AM

If Doom is providing the comedy, I feel it should mostly be of the Comically Serious nature. Not necessarily that he should have no humour at all but of the most deadpan variety.

Sort of how T'Challa was still capable of humourous moments but wasn't a Stark or Quill type quip-merchant.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#145383: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:09:56 AM

He should provide uncomfortable laughs. As in you cannot help but laugh at the sheer pettiness even as he does something horrible.

For example, torturing a tv anchor for interrupting him.

Edited by M84 on Jul 30th 2022 at 3:11:02 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#145384: Jul 29th 2022 at 9:00:33 AM

You didn't think you can just slip "Tony Stank" by me, did you?

If nobody caught it, I would have considered it a grand waste. And you even fell victim to the page-topper curse, too!

The funniest thing I know about Doom is the fact that he's not actually a certified doctor, he gave himself a PHD.

Seriously. Dr. Octavius and Dr. Strange have more right to be called a doctor then him because they actually went and earned the title, not just gave it to themselves because all the cool kids are doing it! Reeds probably has an actual doctorate from an actual accredited university!

Victor Von Doom, Tyrant of Latvaria, is a bloody poser!

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 29th 2022 at 9:12:48 AM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#145385: Jul 29th 2022 at 9:01:55 AM

Reed also goes by Mister, interestingly enough.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#145386: Jul 29th 2022 at 9:37:30 AM

I'd like Doom to be a pompous aristocrat with a very noticeable malicious bent to his words, kind of like King George from Hamilton or Frieza from Dragon Ball.

The legend has returned.
DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#145387: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:10:35 AM

I wonder how powerful Doom will be in the MCU.

If they apply serial escalation, he would be more powerful than Wanda and Strange.

Although if they make it too powerful, one might wonder, saying "Why doesn't he kill the fantastic four in one hit?"

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jul 29th 2022 at 11:11:29 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#145388: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:12:31 AM

I see MCU Doom having a heavy focus on science and technology,I recall Thanos's powers being toned down so he only had powers with the gauntlet

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DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#145389: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:14:38 AM

Yes, even Wanda and Carol could have beaten him in individual fights. (And possibly Thor, if he wasn't fat)

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jul 29th 2022 at 11:15:31 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#145390: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:22:09 AM

Don't forget Ant-Man.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#145391: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:34:23 PM

[up]x4: Because he never would. He depends on his hatred of Reed to validate his existence, not that he would or could ever admit it.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#145392: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:38:33 PM

Doc Ock having a docockterate reminds me that when he body jacked Peter and learned Peter didn’t have a doctorate he got all annoyed and decided that wouldn’t do and took Peter’s body back to college

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145393: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:41:30 PM

And when he submitted his thesis paper he wound up plagiarizing himself.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#145394: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:56:32 PM

[up] And of course, since Spider-Man must always have a sucky life, it comes back to bite Peter when he has his body back.

DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#145395: Jul 29th 2022 at 1:41:51 PM

Honestly if a Spider-man (Peter) shows up with a perfect life, he's either a jerkass (like in the animated series) or they're about to kill him. (Like in the animated movie)

[down]Fixed

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jul 29th 2022 at 1:47:24 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#145396: Jul 29th 2022 at 1:45:47 PM

Or he just never became Spider-Man?

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#145397: Jul 29th 2022 at 1:51:24 PM

I wonder if there's a univers where Uncle Ben got bit by the spider.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#145398: Jul 29th 2022 at 1:53:33 PM

[up][up] Pretty sure there’s universes where Peter Parker didn’t become Spider-Man and he still got screwed over somehow.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145399: Jul 29th 2022 at 1:56:46 PM

[up][up] There is in the Spider-Verse comic

I think the next one also introduced an Aunt May Spider-Woman

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#145400: Jul 29th 2022 at 3:07:10 PM

Doom's power has always come mostly from building elaborate machines and other external devices. His personal powers/armor are normally just mid-tier.


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