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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#145351: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:29:47 PM

I'm going to presume that Gamora is going to connect them somehow.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145352: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:35:35 PM

I wonder if they'll also do the make fun of your name bit with Adam.

Cause thats exactly what the game did. Pretty much the main joke with Adam is how bizarre his name is, the entire team pointing out how bizarre it, and constantly mispronouncing his name cause its so ridiculous.

And yes they did this for Adam's entire screen time.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#145353: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:42:47 PM

Amusingly, comics Frank has seen plenty of weird stuff. He was a Frankenstein monster for a bit.

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#145354: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:46:54 PM

Not to mention the times he was an angel, or Ghost Rider, or was turned black.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jul 28th 2022 at 10:48:15 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145355: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

On a lowkey note he was also the head of a mob family

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#145356: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:56:03 PM

We should try to time the Punisher's official induction into the MCU proper (Netflix show aside) so that it corresponds with the Runaways' official induction into the MCU proper (Hulu show aside).

When it comes to the Punisher, there is nothing more adaptation-worthy than that time a little girl with super-strength full-force punched him in the dick.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 28th 2022 at 1:56:22 AM

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#145357: Jul 28th 2022 at 2:00:18 PM

Yes

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145358: Jul 28th 2022 at 2:02:22 PM

There is also that time Deadpool let note what he really thinks of Frank during Uncanny X-Force

Look, for what it’s worth, I always hated you. You are a boring, two-dimensional, self-serious relic from the 70s. Oh, and Chuck Bronson called. He wants everything he ever did back.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#145359: Jul 28th 2022 at 2:03:32 PM

Ha, damn

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#145360: Jul 28th 2022 at 2:10:08 PM

One of the things I like is that the MCU is finally branching out with the “people in general are starting to get superpowers” concept, whereas before it always seemed limited to very specific characters. Now it feels like the world is getting super: it’s even part of the premise of She Hulk.

If you feel like applying Broad Strokes to AOS there have always been such people, and one of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s biggest jobs was keeping an eye and a lid on them. Now that it's gone they're coming out of the woodwork.

Edited by HeraldAlberich on Jul 28th 2022 at 5:10:18 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#145361: Jul 28th 2022 at 2:14:37 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]We really don't need Joss Whedon's take on the Punisher in the MCU.

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#145362: Jul 28th 2022 at 2:56:15 PM

Yeah, using Joss Whedon's take on Punisher is like using Garth Ennis' take on a superhero.

As much as I sympathise with his dislike of the Punisher it's probably not the best attitude for an adaption to take.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145363: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:03:53 PM

I don't know much about Whedon's take, but Frank Castle is not a good character (meaning morally good, not fun to watch) and it would be entirely within reason for other characters to call him out. I'm not sure that Deadpool, of all people, has the right to do that, but that's never mattered to Wade.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 28th 2022 at 6:04:32 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#145364: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:03:56 PM

It's also really at odds with Bernthal's portrayal. Whedon wrote him as both a brutish idiot and a child-killer.

Not liking a character is fine. Disagreeing with a character's morality is fine. Deliberately writing them badly because you dislike them is childishly petty, the kind of shit I expect from amateur fanfic writers.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jul 28th 2022 at 6:10:27 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145365: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:08:38 PM

For the context of the Deadpool bit, he's being held at gunpoint by Future-Punisher so Wade felt he might as well insult Frank given the opportunity.

To which Franke ask Future!Giant-Man "Can I kill him please?" and he gets told "Sadly no he's important to the past."

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Lost in Space
#145366: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:10:04 PM

I'm not sure how Frank could kill Wade anyway. That's kind of Deadpool's thing: not being killable.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 28th 2022 at 6:10:32 AM

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#145367: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:10:13 PM

I wonder if they'll also do the make fun of your name bit with Adam.

The thing about that is... Adam Warlock is a perfectly possible and plausible if rare name. Adam is a normal name, and there have been people with Warlock as a surname.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145368: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:20:15 PM

Really the game overuses that bit, having the Guardians make fun of just about everyone's name

Darkhawk: Haha that guys a bird

Major Glory: That names dumb

Avengers: Haha what losers would call themselves Avengers?

Which I believe is an attempt at hypocritical humor since no one respects the Guardians either. Hell Rocket actually miswrote their name on the public transcripts so officially they are the Gardeners of the Galaxy

And plus Star Lord always gets defensive when someone points out how dumb his name is

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#145369: Jul 28th 2022 at 3:48:41 PM

Yeah, the issue ultimately comes down to the name thing being a cyclical trope and for most people it's been overused to the point that it's no longer funny.

DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#145370: Jul 28th 2022 at 4:55:03 PM

"One of the things I like is that the MCU is finally branching out with the “people in general are starting to get superpowers” concept, whereas before it always seemed limited to very specific characters. Now it feels like the world is getting super: it’s even part of the premise of She Hulk."

At this point in history, I wonder if there are more super-humans than billionaires.

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jul 28th 2022 at 4:55:47 AM

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#145371: Jul 28th 2022 at 5:29:49 PM

[up]It's only going to get more complicated once mutants become a thing.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#145372: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:00:34 PM

O.K, let's split the difference: Bernthal's Punisher will get punched in the stomach by a child. You can make up your own context for it.

Also, Adam Warlock.

Octo Octavius.

Ulysses Solomon Archer.

Stephen Strange.

Tony Stank.

The odd part about is just "Warlock". People in comics had weirder names and they're supposed to be just normal dudes.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 28th 2022 at 10:05:11 AM

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#145373: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:10:06 PM

Adam Warlock's name can be allowed to be a little weird. Some random people gave it to him and he adopted it.

But his birth name was Him so, y'know, he's done okay for himself.

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 28th 2022 at 1:10:28 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145374: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:18:15 PM

Helps that he actually is a warlock

Dude's a fucking golden skinned space wizard

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#145375: Jul 28th 2022 at 10:22:22 PM

Also, scientifically created to be the Perfect Man.

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