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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#145051: Jul 24th 2022 at 9:07:15 PM

I feel like MODOK will be the primary threat until the halfway point, where the TVA prunes him.

The legend has returned.
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#145052: Jul 24th 2022 at 9:12:52 PM

If MODOK is not going to turn out like that stupid rumor, and he would in fact show up alongside AIM in the movie, I am happy.

Because I have been saying since forever AIM, as a whole, would make a pretty good archenemy for the Ant-Man cast. Hank Pym and AIM would absolutely make enemies out of each other.

And we can have the fun visual of mad scientists dressed like beekeepers fighting against insect-themed superheroes.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#145053: Jul 24th 2022 at 9:52:47 PM

If the rumor is true, then it's likely we'll first meet MODOK as a scientist working under Kang in the Quantum Realm.

If the rumor is not true, then it's likely we'll first see AIM creating MODOK in the regular world and that will lead into the Quantum Realm somehow.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#145055: Jul 25th 2022 at 3:19:38 AM

I had heard rumors the Inventor was going to show up in the Miss Marvel series and that turned out to not be the case. I'll wait and see if MODOK actually shows up before pronouncing myself.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#145056: Jul 25th 2022 at 3:25:05 AM

Huh I just now remembered Steve is also a second-generation Irish immigrant.

So its fairly reasonable to believe he himself may have faced some kind of discrimination in the past even if it was nowhere near as bad as the shit other people faced at the same time.

Always something remembering that Steve is Irish.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145057: Jul 25th 2022 at 5:27:32 AM

[up][up] Amusingly, there are a couple of Easter eggs for The Inventor in Episode 1 of Ms. Marvel, but it's true that he doesn't appear there.

All of this speculation, while interesting, is ultimately self-indulgence until we get some actual information.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 25th 2022 at 8:27:57 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#145058: Jul 25th 2022 at 6:27:52 AM

What were the Easter Eggs? I must have missed them.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145059: Jul 25th 2022 at 6:39:01 AM

Kamala's drawings during the opening sketch montage show a couple of bird figures, specifically a blink-and-you'll-miss-it illustration of a bird as Captain Marvel is introduced to the Battle of Earth. This also pulls double duty as a riff on "it's a bird, it's a plane, it's Superman".

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#145060: Jul 25th 2022 at 7:16:41 AM

Cool, I didn't notice that the first time.

I'm a little surprised that little attention was paid to the already announced D+ shows, wasn't Secret Invasion the only one that was brought up?

You and I remember Budapest very differently
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#145061: Jul 25th 2022 at 7:22:59 AM

There's another Inventor easter egg in the first episode: when Kamala and Bruno are hanging out on the roof of the Circle Q, you can spot near them a sign that says "Edison Industries" (the Inventor is a faulty clone of Edison).

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#145062: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:22:16 AM

[up][up] Disney+ Day is set for September 8th, they're probably saving most of the coverage for that. Along with hopefully some more talk about the Guardians Holiday Special, Armor Wars, and this Halloween special that everyone knows is happening but Marvel refuses to acknowledge. [lol]

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#145063: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:34:44 AM

Nice, I was hoping for some Armor Wars details this time around.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#145064: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:37:00 AM

Same, it's genuinely one of my most anticipated projects. I was a little bit worried that it was left off the slate, but the showrunner confirmed on Twitter that it's still happening after the presentation and it wouldn't be the first time Feige's said "Yup, here's the whole slate" and then snuck some more stuff in after the fact.

Case in point, at this time three years ago Love and Thunder/Hawkeye were supposed to close out Phase 4, since then we've added three series and a movie.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145065: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:38:09 AM

I did notice that Disney+ got only a few announcements amid the blitz of films, and that gives me hope that we'll see additional seasons of some of the Phase 4 shows announced.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#145066: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:49:04 AM

There is no way Phase six will just consist out of three movies and nothing else. There are absolute more Disney+ shows that arent revealed yet.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#145067: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:52:50 AM

I'm already fearing the ones already announced will be Book of Boba Fett-y (spinoff for the side character where they just kind of dick around) so... I'm hoping for quality over quantity.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 25th 2022 at 10:53:14 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#145068: Jul 25th 2022 at 8:58:08 AM

What we need is Moon Knight season 2.

Also: Blade is so far the one I'm intrigued the most about.

Edited by Gaon on Jul 25th 2022 at 8:58:48 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#145069: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:19:32 AM

I gotta imagine that Marvel Studios is seeing the positive reception of Miles Morales and figuring out with Sony how to incorporate him to the MCU. If Sony's willing to keep working with them, that is.

Edited by diddyknux on Jul 25th 2022 at 11:19:54 AM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#145070: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:26:38 AM

I'm no Miles expert but they didn't the steal a lot of his things for MCU Pete? At the very least Ned Leeds is very Ganke-ish.

Otoh they did use Aaron Davis as character in Homecoming especially to have that door open so who knows.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145071: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:31:19 AM

Admittedly I'm not super familiar with Miles Morales' story in the comic books, but since Peter Parker is still alive and being Spider-Man in the MCU (even if everyone has forgotten about him) it would seem weird for there to be a second Spider-Man at the same time.

If Marvel tries to bring him in as a different character, that will of course provoke outrage from the comics purists, so the only thing I can think of is to have that involve the multiverse. The problem there is that if he's an alternate Spider-Man from another universe, he is by definition not canonical to 616 MCU and thus irrelevant to the main storyline.

I guess they could pull him into this universe if they need to, much like they snagged an alternate Gamora from a different timeline in Endgame, but it feels like cheating at the rules they themselves established. (Not that it's ever held them back before.)

Edit: All this is a long-winded way of saying that if they want Miles, we'll get him, but I'm sure people will find reasons to complain no matter how that happens.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 25th 2022 at 12:35:26 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#145072: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:35:52 AM

[up] While Miles was originally a Peter Parker replacement many of the newer adaptions such as both of the "Marvel's Spider-Man"s have them coexist and operate as Spider-Man at the same time.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jul 25th 2022 at 5:36:24 PM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#145073: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:36:45 AM

Not enthused about a live action rehash of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 25th 2022 at 11:37:01 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145074: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:39:09 AM

[up][up] I did not know that. Thanks for explaining.

I guess for me there is a certain amount of "Spider-Man exhaustion" given that he's now had three different cinematic continuities, much like how some DC fans must be experiencing "Batman exhaustion" given how many times he's been rebooted and how many different actors have played him.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 25th 2022 at 12:39:42 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#145075: Jul 25th 2022 at 9:40:06 AM

[up][up] I thought that about No Way Home.

I'm surprised Sony haven't given Emma Stone a blank cheque to play Spider-Gwen though. Given the popularity of the actress and the character.

eta: [up] no problem. Tbf the younger the Peter Parker the weirder having Miles co-exist with him is. The ps4 version Peter's post-uni research guy, a version where they are both in highschool, or just out(?) in MCU's case sounds more strained.

That said while I'd prefer it be with existing young MCU heroes rather than spider-verse thing, seeing MCU Pete end up the experienced hero shepherding the young ones would be a interesting role reversal.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jul 25th 2022 at 5:43:16 PM


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