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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
In what moive should MODOK be put in?
Edited by SAwatching on Jul 24th 2022 at 9:42:04 PM
Sincerely S Awatching.If they ever adapt Gwenpool, they could also include MODOK as he was the villain of her first arc. They could also subvert the usual MCU trend of "heroes mock villain for having a doofy name". Gwenpool does much the same thing in her comic when first seeing MODOK, dismissing him as a silly C-lister... only for him to fry her friend to a crisp, because goofy doesn't mean harmless.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 24th 2022 at 12:45:51 PM
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Well, if rumors are to be believed, this MODOK is actually Darren Cross deformed by his defeat in the first movie and now working for Kang in the Microverse. If that ends up being true, then that leaves room for an actual version of George Tarleton somewhere down the line.
Edited by lbssb on Jul 24th 2022 at 12:52:14 PM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonIt's the best place for him. Stark is dead and it's not like Hulk will be getting a solo film any time soon.
Where else would MODOK show up?
I wouldn't get your hopes up. Besides, MODOK's civilian identity doesn't matter much.
Edited by Cortez on Jul 24th 2022 at 4:17:18 AM
Yeah, that's kinda weird, man.
Crushing on an actor/actress is kinda creepy to begin with, Jailbait Wait only makes it worse.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Where else would MODOK show up?
Ironheart and Armor Wars are the most obvious ones, seeing as we know they're upcoming, but being a mad science villain whose whole thing is running a super-science cult the best places for him are against science heroes and characters that can explore what he actually brings to the table. Heck, given the way the MCU has propped him up as "Tony Stark 2.0," even Spider-Man would be a better choice.
The idea that it's the "best place" for him is just kind of bizarre. I can't think of many reasons why MODOK would work so well as an enemy for Scott, specifically, that it's the best place in the MCU for him. Ultimately, the push for MODOK to be in Ant-Man just comes off as being predicated on memes, imo.
Scott uses mad science, but he's a thief first and foremost and his previous movies have all been reflections of that: heists and comedy crime stories. Both Kang and MODOK are rather baffling picks for that genre. It feels a lot like more of what Marvel has been doing a lot of recently: using characters as vehicles to throw stuff into the universe vs continuing to work with what the characters do.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 24th 2022 at 2:06:43 AM
Poor phrasing, perhaps. I'm not in love with her, but I find her utterly charming as an actor and want to see more of her in the MCU. That's it.
As for MODOK, I've only seen him once or twice in cartoons and in a couple of issues of Gwenpool. He sounds like a fun, if silly villain.
Edited by Fighteer on Jul 24th 2022 at 5:01:53 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Honestly, being the secondary villain doesn't strike me as the horrible fate that many may believe.
Modok could do well, even if he's just a secondary villain.
In other words, Zola and Nebula seem to me to have played a good role, despite originally being secondary villains.
Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jul 24th 2022 at 2:02:28 AM
Head writer Yassir Lester has apparently confirmed that its still happening at least.https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1551234430529830913?cxt=HHwWgoCwsd3fi4crAAAA
So probably not earlier as Phase 6.
Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jul 24th 2022 at 11:14:27 AM
Who do you think is the hero or villain who suffers from the Worf Effect, to demonstrate how powerful Kang is?
One possibility I think of is that Scarlet Witch is easily defeated, so she allows herself to be possessed by Chthon for a chance to win.
Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jul 24th 2022 at 2:36:32 AM
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But MCU MODOK wouldn't have the science cult because they used AIM in Iron Man 2.
It's his usual lot in most of his appearances outside of comics too.
Edited by Cortez on Jul 24th 2022 at 5:33:57 AM
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Its Antman,Kang is going to beat up Scot and squish his ants
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverSo it occurred to someone looking at the MCU lineup, and I'm embarrassed to note that I didn't see this myself at first, that Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars are lined up back-to-back in a suspiciously similar manner to Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame.
This means that some characters are gonna die. Insert grimace emoji.
I'm also coming from a place of not knowing the exact details of how these arcs work out in the comics, but the implication is that beating Kang unleashes some even worse shit on the Multiverse.
Edited by Fighteer on Jul 24th 2022 at 7:04:11 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The problem with the kind of escalation Kang offers is that I still think multiverse stuff kinda exceeds what the human brain is capable of comprehending properly. It's so far beyond our frame of reference.
Like, Thanos wiped out half the universe. Let's say Kang wipes out half the Multiverse (I know that's not his plan, but for the sake of argument), one is infinitely more grand than the other, but I don't think one resonates more on an emotional level than the other does. There's a limit to how much the human mind can care and you reach the point of diminishing returns eventually if you keep escalating. Blowing up a solar system doesn't feel that much more serious than blowing up a planet.
At least, that's the issue I'm running into in my own mind.
Edited by GNinja on Jul 24th 2022 at 11:16:58 AM
Kaze ni Nare!Kang's not the type to destroy a bunch of timelines, just conquer them. His motivation has historically been boredom, and multiversal destruction would be out of character for him because it would leave him with nothing to do. To make Kang terrifying, the best way would be to make it personal - Thanos was just ruthlessly pragmatic, while Kang can and will deliberately pull a Professor Zoom and fuck with very specific aspects of your timeline just to hurt you if you piss him off.
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Oh, agreed. In Infinity War and Endgame the loss of half of the universe's population was felt mainly in the main characters that we were missing. That was the point. A Million Is a Statistic, but when we watch Steve Rogers sifting the ash that used to be Bucky Barnes through his fingers and asking, "Did we lose," that hits a million times harder. When the remaining Avengers spend the next half-hour of screentime in a world that has just been horrifically depopulated, we despair along with them.
Evil plots are a dime a dozen; I found a handful of them while I was weeding my garden the other day. Writing this sort of story should never be about the plot itself so much as its effect on the characters that we have come to know and love. This is why we had two and a half movies to see Steve and Bucky's relationship develop: so the latter's death could mean something. Incidentally, this is a writing trick that the DCEU has yet to learn.
Putting these two ensemble films at the end of a very long arc of character-driven stories is meant to capitalize on the fact that we're emotionally invested in all the people we're going to see get brutalized by Kang. And this is, in a nutshell, good writing.
Edited by Fighteer on Jul 24th 2022 at 8:19:28 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

I'm a little disappointed that MODOK was put into Ant-Man of all movies, especially since it seems to be more of a bit role, but whatever. At least he's in the franchise, I guess.