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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#140426: Mar 4th 2022 at 12:50:15 AM

"So you're supposed to be some financial wizard or something?"

"Yes. Top of my class at Wharton."

"So why join us? You must have better job opportunities."

"...Things happened."

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#140427: Mar 4th 2022 at 1:07:34 AM

Its like that janitor guy in Peacemaker.

"You went to MIT, the fuck are you doing here?"

"I told you I don't like the responsibility."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#140428: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:02:24 AM

Cross-posting from NWH thread:

The creative director at Marvel Studios revealed the best look we have at the very last suit Peter wears in Spider-Man: No Way Home.

And...yup, it's pretty much perfect, right? grin

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#140429: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:25:41 AM

Yep that's my favourite suit. Big eyes, great logo, webbing isn't too busy and SHINEY SHINEY BLUE.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140430: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:45:28 AM

It is a sweet suit.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#140431: Mar 4th 2022 at 10:25:44 AM

It is.

While I liked some of his other suits, this one is the one I'd wished we'd gotten from the get go.

One Strip! One Strip!
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140432: Mar 4th 2022 at 11:04:28 AM

[up] I dunno. I think his first homemade suit was a cool way of establishing Peter's inexperience in the superhero world.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Mar 4th 2022 at 11:04:40 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#140433: Mar 4th 2022 at 12:05:33 PM

[up] Actually, yeah, it does kinda work from an evolution standpoint (and I say this as someone who liked the suits we had gotten already):

  • Homemade suit: Just starting off.
  • All suits from CW, HC, IW, EG, FFH, NWH (save the very last one): Getting backing from a multibillion dollar corporation.
  • Last NWH suit: 100% independent hero. No having to work with literal scrap, no backing from Tony in either life or afterlife (which a lot of folks were fussy about), no support team (sad), just Spidey. Only Spidey. Like, we literally can't ask for a better suit to symbolize Peter's independence than this one. To even try to do so is basically a paradox.

And...it's dawning on me that while NWH was very clearly meant as a send-off in light of that scare when Sony was going to pick Spider-Man off the MCU and right now Holland is taking a well-deserved sabbatical from the role, I'm like "well gee, where could they go from here?" I guess Black Cat and Kingpin? (Maybe Deadpool?)

We still have that one non-solo MCU movie where Spidey is due to show up in, but what movie could that be? Maybe Fantastic Four? (Unless it'll be one of the Spider-Variants?)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 4th 2022 at 3:18:36 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140434: Mar 4th 2022 at 2:05:50 PM

[up] I'm hoping the next Spider-Man trilogy doesn't tie in too much to his next ensemble appearance. I don't mind Spidey going up working with/against MCU characters like Kingpin, Fantastic Four, Daredevil or Yelena Belova, but I'd really like for this trilogy to be as standalone as possible, and not be setting up other MCU films. One of the biggest things I've noticed about each individual hero's "trilogies" is that they all have some big ensemble film that you kind of have to watch to see each character progress. There's more to that I want to talk about, but I'll leave it unless y'all are curious.

Also if we're getting the black suit, I think that should stay with Peter for a few movies. Particularly if we get him vs. Kingpin.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#140435: Mar 5th 2022 at 1:55:18 PM

I would like to agree with you, but Spider-man, Daredevil and Yelena against the Kingpin and his criminal empire sounds amazing.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140436: Mar 5th 2022 at 10:18:52 PM

[up] Like I said, I'm totally fine with that idea. I think there's a lot of potential in a story like that. I just hope that would be a case of Spider-Man working with those two heroes on an even playing field, rather than having a student-teacher relationship ala Stark and Fury.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#140437: Mar 6th 2022 at 12:20:06 AM

Oh man Anime X-Men's Cyclops was great, one of the few shows that actually got the character.

Hopefully when Scott appears in the MCU they actually do him justice this time unlike how the Foxmen treated the character.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 6th 2022 at 12:21:11 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140438: Mar 6th 2022 at 7:54:49 AM

[up] It's a shame, because James Marsden is actually a really good actor, and he clearly was invested in Cyclops in some regard.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#140439: Mar 6th 2022 at 8:48:43 AM

He's really charismatic, and the fact that he's been good in movie musicals and video game movies since (showing a certain uhh je ne sais quoi with genre fiction with an element of camp), proves that him being good in a superhero movie should have been a no-brainer with better writing. (Not counting the Superman Disposable Fiancé role!)

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#140440: Mar 6th 2022 at 8:50:31 AM

Also if we're getting the black suit, I think that should stay with Peter for a few movies.

I mean, would they even want to do the black suit at this point?

Pretty sure Sony will want to keep going with their Venom movies and this might sound weird, but maybe the MCU is a bit averse towards do-overs regarding Spider-Man? Pretty much all of Spidey's MCU movies save for NWH dabbled in uncharted territory with Vulture and Mysterio, so who's to say they won't keep going? (Probably doesn't help that barring Venom, the last time a Marvel movie did a do-over, it wasn't so great. Though I'll admit that the track record of do-overs is spotty because Juggernaut was pretty much spot-on in Deadpool 2, right?)

But huge yes to having Spidey, Daredevil, and Yelena against Kingpin. Not sure if it would work better as a D+ limited series or as a full-on movie, but I want to see it anyway.

Incidentally, what do you guys think will be the canonical name of Spidey's last suit in NWH? Like, assuming we end up getting merchandise for it or appearances in video games (like the upcoming Spider-Man 2 game for PS5) eventually? The Final Suit? The Freelance Suit?

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140441: Mar 6th 2022 at 8:57:15 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I thought Marsden was great in Westworld and Sonic Wouldn't mind seeing him come back.

[up] The only reason why I'm suggesting the idea of the black suit returning is because of the mid-credit scene of No Way Home implying that a spawn of Venom might be out there to terrorize Peter in the near future. Although I do agree it would be a bit of a rehash, and I'm 90% certain that scene only happened because Sony really really really wanted a connection between Spidey and Venom to happen, even if Feige wasn't exactly interested in the character.

As for Marvel sucking at do-overs...well let's just say that Fox is pretty hit-or-miss.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#140442: Mar 6th 2022 at 9:38:51 AM

I wonder if Mcu Flash will end up becoming agent venom in this universe?

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#140443: Mar 6th 2022 at 9:43:41 AM

Right now, he kinda matched Eddie Brock in character; doing the same stuff as Peter, but being less pleasant and effective.

And, ngl, a Venom evolving from "angry ex looking for revenge" to Agent Venom without changing hosts, would be fine by me.

Scorpion Venom is also a possibility, and that covers both "like Spider Man but more" villains all at once.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#140445: Mar 6th 2022 at 11:56:13 AM

Agent Venom could be good for Flash as it could offer him development. He could use it, at the moment he's basically just this annoying hanger-on to Peter's trio.

He's basically a nuisance and a figure of disrespect.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#140446: Mar 6th 2022 at 12:01:30 PM

I will only accept MCU Flash becoming Venom if the symbiote becomes just as boastful of and fixated on Flash's social media influence as Flash himself is.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#140447: Mar 6th 2022 at 12:06:09 PM

I feel like at this point the ship has sailed for Agent Venom. It was on the other Spider-Man films to build up Flash as a character who would interesting to see as a hero, and they actively chose not to.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#140448: Mar 6th 2022 at 12:16:04 PM

Plus, there's also the fact that Flash literally doesn't know who Peter is anymore. So making him Agent Venom would be kind of pointless in that regard.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#140449: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:19:47 PM

With all the stuff coming out soon, She-Hulk, more Captain Marvel stuff, etc, I wonder if Rick Jones is finally going to get a formal introduction.

OrangeBun Formerly Hail Muffins (He/Him) from The only sane region left in Brazil (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I'm her lunatic and she's my sociopath
Formerly Hail Muffins (He/Him)
#140450: Mar 6th 2022 at 7:26:39 PM

Having watched The Batman just yesterday, you know what I really hope gets brought back if a new Daredevil season gets made? The Devil-Worshippers.

Not surprised you don't remember, they're mantioned rather off-handedly back in Season 2, but they're basically a bunch of people inspired by Daredevil to go around doing vigilante justice, which is a very interesting plot thread that has remained unexplored.

How would Matt respond to people doing the same thing he does? Try to talk them down? Beat them all up? Raise them into his own personal little army? Lots of possibilities there.

El sexo es temporal. LA PENITENCIA ES ETERNA!

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