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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#140101: Feb 18th 2022 at 8:52:49 AM

@Gaon -I can see that. The Roxxon we have currently makes me think of a Wulfram and Hart type deal in which they are The Constant and whatever time/multiverse you are in, they are always doing something evil.

And that Wulfram and Hart comparison is on point, because their founder was actually a member of the Secret Empire, which might be the same thing as the Hydra cult.

But I don't think that's necessarily at odds with them getting a Minotaur CEO in the present who makes them evil in new and innovative ways.

Edited by Hodor2 on Feb 18th 2022 at 10:53:45 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#140102: Feb 18th 2022 at 8:54:52 AM

Its pretty noticeable in Miles Morales since the Roxxon guy has literally nothing memorable about him at all.

I know he's simply just to facilitate the origin for the actual primary antagonist Tinkerer but still it doesn't change the fact that every time he's onscreen you want to die because he's so miserably uninteresting.

Granted they did waste their Troy Baker casting token on him so thats something decent at least.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 18th 2022 at 8:55:58 AM

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#140103: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:12:05 AM

Agger's cool, but he's hardly the be-all end-all of Roxxon. Roxxon's been around since the 70's. Agger was created in 2014. He's a blip on the overall history of the corporation.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 18th 2022 at 10:15:47 AM

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#140104: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:14:47 AM

I guess the big question would be if Roxxon has to survive to be Roxxcart in 2050, as we've seen in Loki.

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#140105: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:15:57 AM

Note: He is cool. He embodies the WTFy nature of the Marvel Universe. The CEO of a major energy corporation is a minotaur because sure, why not? Everybody and their dog is an alien/mutant hybrid, or a time-traveling hyper-intelligent super-monkey, or has sold their soul to Spider-Man for a hot dog and a webshooter. That's the kind of world we live in.

I'm not sure the MCU is sufficiently zany enough for a Fuck You, That's Why like that though.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#140106: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:21:04 AM

The MCU will get there. We haven't got to the point where civilians can be openly weird looking, but the Minotaur can shift between a human form - so he could be included and be discreet about his nature.

Edited by Whowho on Feb 18th 2022 at 6:59:01 PM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#140107: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:27:29 AM

Since we're talking about Roxxon as a potential She-Hulk foe, I'm reminded that one of She-Hulk's earliest issues (back when it was The Savage She-Hulk) had Jennifer Walters defending Roxxon.

A lot of their oil had been disappearing, and everyone was convinced that they were secretly hoarding it away as a plan to manipulate the market and drive up prices. But turns out, no, a supervillain was stealing it, and just this once, Roxxon had to explain "It's Not Me This Time".

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#140108: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:29:44 AM

Its more I notice that he does provide an interesting enough figurehead for the company.

Roxxon is a pretty utilitarian villain, they can appear in a lot of stuff but for the most part they tend to lack a striking leader compared to how Oscorp is run by the memorable Norman Osborn.

A character like Agger helps it not come across like a total generic evil corporation.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#140109: Feb 18th 2022 at 10:53:03 AM

I remember a plot I always thought would be neat for the MCU, especially back when Iron Man movies were still current, is the Sunturion & Stratosfire storyline where Roxxon's attempts at making their own "Iron Man" style public hero to rival Stark Industries ends up creating both a Knight in Sour Armor and an insane Knight Templar.

It could make a neat story for Ironheart or Armor Wars.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 18th 2022 at 10:54:35 AM

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#140110: Feb 18th 2022 at 11:48:02 AM

I'm not sure the MCU is sufficiently zany enough for a Fuck You, That's Why like that though.

They could have Agger in his human form must of the time.

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#140111: Feb 18th 2022 at 12:51:29 PM

I wonder if we'll ever see the Watcher in any live action MCU films. Obviously he'll have to be CG, but it does offer some story possibilities.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#140112: Feb 18th 2022 at 12:57:20 PM

I mean, we did see a bunch of them already.

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#140113: Feb 18th 2022 at 1:06:22 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in the future. He might even appear in Multiverse of Madness, considering all the shit that's been stirring up.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#140114: Feb 18th 2022 at 1:12:46 PM

Random question: what's the overall opinion on Screen Rant.

My bro watches it a lot for its Marvel theories, and I end up listening to a lot of it as well by default.

Kinda curious if anyone else does, and has listened to their latest stuff for Marvel.

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Ltnik244 Since: Jun, 2017
#140115: Feb 18th 2022 at 1:39:58 PM

Whoever added that zombie strange variant in multiverse of madness is same one from what if is wrong and it needs to be deleted it's defender strange corpse being possessed by something as it has the same scars on his face shown in this shot

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EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
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#140116: Feb 18th 2022 at 1:44:07 PM

You might want to take this to ATT, as Arthas is edit warring.

And now that you mention it, holy shit, that is the same Strange. Huh.

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#140117: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:01:21 PM

I honestly thought I saw a zombie Wanda in there too.

And man, does Sam Raimi love his eye zooms?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#140118: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:08:08 PM

[up]

I also think I saw Zombie Wanda.

She could still be alive after her encounter with Ultron, though it seems unlikely. Also, any thoughts on my earlier question above?

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#140119: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:10:35 PM

There’s probably more than one zombie-verse.

Ltnik244 Since: Jun, 2017
#140120: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:14:56 PM

[up] Sorry no it's not Zombie Wanda it's probably MCU Wanda possessing her variant

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Ltnik244 Since: Jun, 2017
#140121: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:20:43 PM

BTW Is it me or this is the first time ever we so much blood on one character in MCU

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#140122: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:23:03 PM

Does Ronan bathing in Xandarian blood count?

Why do Xandarians have blue blood, anyway? Shouldn't their skintones look less peachy if they did?

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Ltnik244 Since: Jun, 2017
#140123: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:28:26 PM

IF Wanda dies in this movies (which she probably will) I really worried how will Clint react to it. Clint will probably grab Strange by his collar shaking him and saying something "WHERE IS WANDA STRANGE TELL WHERE IS SHE IS SHE OKAY ?"

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#140124: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:29:56 PM

[up]"Well there is like 14.000 wants outhere so yeah, they are okey....."

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Ltnik244 Since: Jun, 2017
#140125: Feb 18th 2022 at 2:36:27 PM

Introducing new book written by Clint Barton named as "All mine friends are dead."

Edited by Ltnik244 on Feb 18th 2022 at 2:36:46 AM


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