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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139876: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:15:15 PM

That really has no bearing on Wanda here because she actually has been used as a character.

I mean Civil War was crap in the comics but the movie is actually pretty good.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 13th 2022 at 4:15:40 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#139877: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:15:57 PM

Interesting note: the closed captions of the trailer refer to the evil Strange as Sinister Strange. Killer name, and I'm sure x-theorists will fucking lose it.

Edited by Gaon on Feb 13th 2022 at 4:16:12 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#139878: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:17:58 PM

If that's the case, Mr. Sinister's finally a villain in one of these.

The legend has returned.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#139879: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:19:48 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, you avoid the mistakes in the comics by avoiding the mistakes in the comics. Not by avoiding the context of the mistakes.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139880: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:19:58 PM

Things really did just get out of hand...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#139881: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:22:44 PM

New poster for the film, featuring Captain Carter's shield in the bottom right.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139882: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:25:28 PM

That definatly LOOKS like strange is being brought to meet with an Illuminati.

Also the visuals are amazing.

Edit: [up] oh dang you're right as well.

Edited by Whowho on Feb 13th 2022 at 12:27:16 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139883: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:32:12 PM

[up][up] So What If...? does connect to this series...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139884: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:47:07 PM

That monster made of ribbons attacking America Chavez at the start looks cool as flip.

it also looks like there are six (or possibly seven) seats at the Illuminati. Also those drones escorting Strange look like a blend between the Iorn Legion and Ultron drones, and I think an Ultron would make an excellent member of the Illuminati if you didn't want to use Tony so soon. Moreover that certainly looks like Carol going toe to toe with America. From the back you can see what looks like blond hair streaming behind her helmet.

Curious.

Edited by Whowho on Feb 13th 2022 at 12:47:25 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#139885: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:49:58 PM

[up] Hmm... so, Evil Strange, Evil Xavier, Evil Carol, Undisclosed Stark Equivalent (maybe Rhodey, older Morgan Stark or older Ironheart?), hopefully evil Mr. Fantastic, maybe an evil Wakanda representative?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#139886: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:56:52 PM

If Reddit is to be believed: a Tony Stark variant played by Tom Cruise.

The legend has returned.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139887: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:02:06 PM

Trick with the Illuminati is to cover all the power sources of the marvel universe.

Space, political, tech, magic and mutants, (and maybe Inhumans if they're a big deal at the time

So a varient Strange, Carol and Xavier seem like a must for magic, space and mutants

The other three slots could go in a few directions. for tech I'm really hoping it's Ultron, but a Morgan Stark would work. The poster would have me believe that politics would be covered by Captain Carter, but I just don't buy that we'd see a villionous take on that character, unless she's the token good. Killmonger or Nick Fury would be more that speed. Or even Doctor Doom if we wanted to get really out there.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#139888: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:02:19 PM

A separate spot showing two more Stranges, one of whom appears to be a zombie. Sorry for the poor quality, best I could find.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139889: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:03:47 PM

[up][up] As much as I don't believe that, it would be pretty fun.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139891: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:47:09 PM

On a general note I love how every movie is increasingly fitting the truly crossover aspect comics can get where characters can team up and encounter villains out of their respective franchises and this one is no different. Doc Strange teaming up with the Scarlet Witch and America Chavez to face threats including possibly Illuminati and a Captain Marvel variant.

Its interesting cause to use a comparison, the Logan film is based on the Old Man Logan comic which is a comic that has Logan teaming up with Hawkeye and over the course of the story he encounters Mysterio, a symbiote dinosaur, a Spider-Woman, the Hulk Gang and the Hulk himself, and the Red Skull in Bucky's Captain America suit. Barley any actual X-characters in the book, it was largely Logan dealing with characters from various Marvel franchises.

By contrast Logan distilled all that to primarily within just the X-lane so the only people Logan encounters are X-characters and the only villains are the Reavers and X-24.

Pretty crazy how far we have come.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139893: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:58:08 PM

Agreed, my favourite thing about the MCU right now is that anyone can turn up in anything at this point. (Provided it's not an oragin Film) and that's a unique joy of comic books you don't expect in films.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#139894: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:08:08 PM

In regards to the Illuminati, I think we could see a Tony Stark variant (that might be played by a different actor) as a member. But the twist is that he is the variant that successfully created Ultron who did exactly what he wanted it to do. Hence the Ultron-esque robots.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#139895: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:33:17 PM

[up]If rumors are to be believed, Tom Cruise has been cast as that Tony Stark.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139896: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:35:25 PM

A Tony Stark varient plaid by a different actor would work really well. As Tony Stark can very easily, and unambiguously, look like Tony Stark even when plaid by someone else.

I think The Illuminati will be populated by people that will be meaningful to the audience. So I think a Patrick Stewart Xavier, a Benedic Cumberbatch Strange, a Captain Marvel, a non Robert Downey Jr Tony Stark and a non Chaswik Boseman/T'challa Black Panther are plausable.

However, I think for this same reason a Nova, a Blackbolt, or a Namor are less likely as they won't hold weight to the audience.

I will say though that a Doug Jones Silver Surfer would work under my expectations, but that character would step on the toes of the Captain Marvel varient we're seemingly getting.

Edited by Whowho on Feb 13th 2022 at 3:38:05 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139897: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:39:15 PM

[up] I'm not sure if they're going to do a T'Challa variant here. Since Chadwick's death is still fresh on everyone's minds, and the decision from Marvel to not recast him seems pretty definitive.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139898: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:40:47 PM

People seem to think It's a version of the Superior Iron Man.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139899: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:40:52 PM

[up]Yeah I think it's more likely that if we get a Black Panther varient that it won't be a T'challa Black Panther varient for that reason.

Killmonger would be my pick.

Edit: [up][up] The colour scheme works.

Edited by Whowho on Feb 13th 2022 at 3:41:29 PM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139900: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:46:32 PM

I don't know if we would get a Black Panther in a team like that.

Edited by Cortez on Feb 13th 2022 at 11:50:49 AM


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