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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139851: Feb 13th 2022 at 12:33:30 PM

I'd like to see the guy come back, but resurrecting Coulson in the mainline MCU comes with a whole slew of canon-related problems regarding Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. And I don't think Feige wants to solve them just yet.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#139852: Feb 13th 2022 at 12:36:17 PM

We first saw Peggy Carter in the 1940's back in Captain America: The First Avenger. That film came out 11 years ago. So if they did an Agent Carter revival, Hayley Atwell would now be just the right age to play Peggy in the late 1950's/early 1960's.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139853: Feb 13th 2022 at 12:39:04 PM

I'm happy for Coulson to be given his due in prequal films and animated stuff.

There isn't much tying him to the current MCU given that most of his interaction was with Tony Stark (dead) and Nick Fury (who's role is greatly reduced) Captain Marvel Marvels would be the only place I could see him slotting in really comfortably, but that film already sounds pretty crowded.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#139854: Feb 13th 2022 at 12:39:53 PM

it happpened again,Dr.Strange messed up a spell and now there's hoards of zombies everywhere!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139855: Feb 13th 2022 at 12:53:49 PM

[up][up] Fury seems to be a major character in Secret Invasion, so maybe that show could bring him back. But it seems pretty unlikely.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139856: Feb 13th 2022 at 1:06:29 PM

wild mass guessCoulson who died on the hellicarrier and then did Agents of SHIELD was a Skrullwild mass guess

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139857: Feb 13th 2022 at 1:11:31 PM

[up] Eh, that seems like a lame cop-out. Coulson's needs to have some level of authenticity imo.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Feb 13th 2022 at 1:12:01 AM

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139858: Feb 13th 2022 at 2:53:34 PM

The original Secret Invasion event WAS intended to ressurect a lot of characters or retcon away recent villianous spins on characters. So it would be true to the text.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139859: Feb 13th 2022 at 2:55:17 PM

Oooooh what if Captain America 4 brings in Sin, the daughter of Red Skull only like his granddaughter or something similar here?

Like a villainous legacy to counter Sam being a continuation of the heroic Captain America legacy.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#139860: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:13:43 PM

...

DID THAT SUPER BOWL TEASER FOR MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS JUST TEASE PROFESSOR X?!

surprisedsurprisedsurprised

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 13th 2022 at 6:14:10 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#139862: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:19:29 PM

[up] Okay, that just had to be Professor X, right? Like, that did not not sound like Patrick Stewart just now, right?!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 13th 2022 at 6:25:16 AM

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#139863: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:20:21 PM

Holy shit, Patrick Stewart *IS* gonna be in it. I guess I've gotta stop doubting the fan leaks.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#139864: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:20:37 PM

[up][up]I know, right? I'm almost certain that was him!

Edited by lbssb on Feb 13th 2022 at 5:31:14 AM

Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks Marathon
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139865: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:28:03 PM

If that really is the Professor...

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

THIS IS NUTS.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139866: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:28:40 PM

Oooooooh who is the glowy lady blasting Wanda?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139867: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:35:24 PM

[up] Captain Marvel variant?

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139868: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:48:18 PM

I actually don't believe it. Guess I'll have to watch the trailer.

Dang I really hope this film isn't overstuffed.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#139869: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:53:12 PM

Sure sounded like Patrick Stewart . But I'm holding off on saying this confirms Xavier is back.

Ralph Boehner is proof that casting the same actor is not at all the same as casting them as the same character.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139870: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:54:36 PM

[up] At the same time, we did get all three Peter Parkers in the last movie Strange was in, so... anything's up in the air!

Edited by MatthewWayne on Feb 13th 2022 at 3:55:18 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#139871: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:02:50 PM

Yeah. I sure as hell heard Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier.

Same as the rest of you.

Damn. After years of people thinking they'd use Wanda and the Multiverse to introduce the X-men....we might finally be getting it.

One Strip! One Strip!
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#139872: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:03:00 PM

I mean, it's possible. Even probable, at this point. But Marvel might just be a Trolling Creator again.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#139873: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:10:32 PM

I'm still hoping they introduce mutants into the MCU proper by having Wanda say "No, more mutants". We got Captain America to say "Hail Hydra" in the MCU in a context where it worked, so I say we can have this too.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#139874: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:10:41 PM

Hmm.

Theory:

Strange clearly pops into a possible or alternate future, and that's where he sees Xavier. The fact that the evil version of Strange is in the same scene makes me think it's not alternate Strange and Xavier (IE Fox Xavier). I think that what it is, is a Bad Future of the Illuminati.

They're actually in a really good spot for it, come to think: the only members of the Illuminati not accounted for or coming soon are Tony and T'Challa, and the latter probably would've been on the table when when the movie was in its earlier stages.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 13th 2022 at 4:13:07 AM

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#139875: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:13:31 PM

I'm still hoping they introduce mutants into the MCU proper by having Wanda say "No, more mutants". We got Captain America to say "Hail Hydra" in the MCU in a context where it worked, so I say we can have this too.

Me, I would simply prefer that they keep Wanda as far away from mutants as they can because around them, she generally has a history of being reduced to a plot device (*cough* House of M *cough*).

Okey Dokey!

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