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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It's just that, I don't know, that really doesn't fit the branding... Foreign markets are much smaller than the US, I could see there being more complaints. But I do agree the age of Hulu is coming to an end, everyone wants to create their own streaming services.
Edited by jjjj2 on Feb 11th 2022 at 11:06:21 AM
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the midNon-US markets in Disney literally have an entire subsection called Star where all their content that doesn't fit the branding goes, including stuff that's on Hulu and FX.
I almost guarantee that once it's in their best interests to ditch Hulu, they'll just add the Star hub to the US section and that'll be the end of it.
That was for rights to make media with the characters themselves, and that date passed a while ago.
The reason this is so confusing is that regardless of who has the production rights, those specific shows should still belong to Netflix since Netflix are the ones who created them. This is kind of baffling tbh.
It's possible Disney and Netflix made some kind of other backroom arrangement so the shows themselves also belong to Disney now. Maybe Disney went "give me the shows and you keep some unspecified disney property". No idea, though.
Edited by Gaon on Feb 11th 2022 at 12:17:33 PM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."As I recall, the greenlighting and cancellation authority lay with Netflix. I distinctly remember Ted Sarandos saying something in between the cancellations of Iron Fist and Luke Cage about "these shows are ours [Netflix's] to cancel".
Okey Dokey!Marvel Television and ABC Studios (the same Disney-owned companies that worked on for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) have always been the main production companies for these series (among some extra non-Netflix affiliated studios).
Much like a lot of third-party shows on the platform, Netflix namely serves as a distributor, which does involve what dmcreif explained.
I'm glad I finished re-watching these shows when they did. This is why I always prefer physical media when possible. They can't take that away from you.
On the other hand, if they really are being moved to Disney+... maybe they'll get continued there...?
A man can dream.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I still have to wonder how much Disney is willing to let Marvel let with the Netflix characters.
Also, if Luke Cage comes back, how're they going to explain Copperhead and Eric Brooks being Identical Strangers?
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I'm just sad because Luke Cage season 2 ended on a massive thematic downer, and it's likely that we'll either never see how that resolves, or Luke Cage will show up acting all snarky in some other show and only vaguely hint at what happened in his past.
Edited by GNinja on Feb 11th 2022 at 11:09:57 AM
Kaze ni Nare!I was curious as to what was going to happen as well.
But I think we all accepted that Iron Fist was not going to come back as he was.
It's surprising that the others beyond Charlie Cox and Vincent Donofrio are done though.
I figured Jessica and Luke would get their shot as well.
One Strip! One Strip!I kinda want more gritty Marvel stuff to be honest. Maybe it didn't fit Iron fist specifically, but still.
Like, for a while, the refrain was that superhero media was too afraid to embrace some of the sillier aspects of comic books. Now, I think they've so thoroughly embraced all that stuff that I kinda want some of the grittiness back. XD
Kaze ni Nare!I definitely think most of the Netflix shows were better off with their gritty tone. The fight scenes in Daredevil particularly won a lot of tension through their brutality. You felt the impact of every punch.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianWell I mean I kinda see why, they needed a larger-than-life threat that would be big enough to tie all the shows together. But it could not be TOO big either, since it would still have to be a Streetlevel-Threat, not Avengers-Level stuff.
An army of Ninjas will do there.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianI suspect the opposite, actually.
That Disney bought out or otherwise acquired the distribution rights for the Netflix shows is, in my opinion, undoubtedly the reason why suddenly characters like Matt Murdock and Wilson Fisk are being canonized. Now that Disney owns the shows, there's no reason for them not to be.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 11th 2022 at 3:58:26 AM
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As mentioned above, they can implement a parental control system.
Pam & Tommy, a show about Pam Anderson's sex tape scandal, is on the Star Disney+ imprint in the UK, for example.
Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 11th 2022 at 10:02:26 AM