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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#139726: Feb 10th 2022 at 6:48:33 AM

All of the Norse gods are already dead, so Gorr needs to earn his reputation of butchering gods somehow.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#139728: Feb 10th 2022 at 7:15:45 AM

[up][up] I think the expectation is that his establishing moment will be butchering his way though the Greek Pantheon given that Zeus has been cast.

Highly doubt they'd kill off Bast, especially outside a Black Panther movie.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139729: Feb 10th 2022 at 8:21:20 AM

If Gore's really going to be killing all gods, looks like Moon Knight might be in trouble...

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#139730: Feb 10th 2022 at 8:22:01 AM

-Moon Knight kicks down the door-

"I am the trouble!"

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#139731: Feb 10th 2022 at 8:35:50 AM

I wonder if we'll get any "Kratos did it better" memes when Gorr shows up and starts killing gods.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139732: Feb 10th 2022 at 10:42:39 AM

Gor would make a legitimately interesting antagonist for Moonknight.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#139733: Feb 10th 2022 at 10:49:02 AM

From a storytelling standpoint, sure. But I feel like they are very mismatched in the strength department.

The legend has returned.
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#139734: Feb 10th 2022 at 10:56:43 AM

Has there been any word about Marvel having plans for Hercules? 'Cause if they're bringing in Greek gods, including Herc's dad ... like, either they've got a plan for how this could set up Hercules, or they don't, in which case letting this film do whatever it wants with the Greek Pantheon could create awkward writing hurdles if they ever do decide to bring in Hercules.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#139735: Feb 10th 2022 at 11:25:32 AM

if they intend to bring Hercules into the MCU they need to do so before DC does the same,DC already has Wonder Woman + Ares

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139736: Feb 11th 2022 at 2:09:38 AM

DC's Herc is a pretty different character from what I understand? Being an antagonist most of the time.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#139737: Feb 11th 2022 at 4:26:07 AM

The Netflix shows are leaving Netflix.

Presumably they'll end up in Disney+/Hulu. I thought Netflix had the full rights to the series.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139738: Feb 11th 2022 at 4:32:11 AM

There's a shock.

I'm not giving up my Jessica Jones account image on Netflix.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#139739: Feb 11th 2022 at 4:32:31 AM

Like I just posted on the other thread, not cool at all.

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DoubleOG (Apprentice)
#139740: Feb 11th 2022 at 4:40:07 AM

If some start using this as evidence of their "eventual" inclusion into the MCU...

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139741: Feb 11th 2022 at 4:45:02 AM

I'm not going to stress about this untill we find out why they're being removed and their prospects of turning up elsewhere.

I feel like it's unlikely it's a ploy to sell dvds or get people to rush watch the shows while they're still available. (I can't see Netflix pulling a "Disney vault")

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#139742: Feb 11th 2022 at 5:27:02 AM

Presumably they'll end up in Disney+/Hulu. I thought Netflix had the full rights to the series.

Hard to say what's going on. I mean, back when the shows were airing, it was clear Netflix were the ones who controlled renewals and cancellations (because when the shows got canceled, it was made abundantly clear that that was Netflix's call).

It's likely Hulu for US audiences and Star for everyone else.

But again, we don't know anything because the people who'd be in the know about these kinds of things probably aren't legally allowed to say anything lest they lose their jobs.

Okey Dokey!
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#139743: Feb 11th 2022 at 5:29:44 AM

IIRC the Netflix deal had a time limit, rights revert back to Marvel once a certain number of years had passed. The characters (and the actors playing them) went back to Marvel 5 years after the shows were canceled. This was ANOTHER reason why Perlmutter got the stink eye from Disney since they had to wait so long post cancelation to be able to re-integrate the characters back into the MCU.

Would make sense if the deal ALSO applied to distribution rights, I cannot see any logical reason WHY Disney/Marvel wouldn't want to put those on D+.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#139744: Feb 11th 2022 at 5:58:31 AM

Hulu seems likelier on account of the gore and the sexual content.

Okey Dokey!
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#139745: Feb 11th 2022 at 6:08:45 AM

Yeah, unless they wanna censor it.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#139746: Feb 11th 2022 at 6:19:21 AM

Yeah, Hulu seems like where all the non-Simpsons adult shows go.

The legend has returned.
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#139747: Feb 11th 2022 at 7:11:47 AM

The thing to note is Hulu's days are very much numbered: you can bet your ass that as soon as Disney gets full ownership of Hulu that they're gonna kill it and move all of its content over to Disney+, much like what has been done with Star. Disney+ already has a parental control system for Star content that could easily be recycled with Hulu.

So the way I see it Marvel Netflix will within the next couple years make it to Disney+ and will likely slot right in with Marvel's legacy stuff. The question is if it spends a year or two hanging out in Hulu first.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#139748: Feb 11th 2022 at 7:14:11 AM

They won't kill Hulu I don't think,not for a long time yet

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139749: Feb 11th 2022 at 7:48:45 AM

Hulu is co-owned by Disney and NBC, which is investing a lot in growing Peacock. Heck not even 24 hours ago it was reported that they're about to move many of their shows on Hulu to Peacock. So I definitely agree the Disney/Fox shows on there being folded into D+ in the next couple of years is in the cards.

. If NBC Universal chose not to exercise the option to remove the shows, they would remain on Hulu through 2024.

Some libraries of NBC Universal shows such as “30 Rock” and “Parenthood,” as well as some films, aren’t part of this specific content-sharing deal and are to remain on Hulu until the agreement they are included in is up for renewal.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 11th 2022 at 9:49:25 AM

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#139750: Feb 11th 2022 at 7:58:04 AM

It's just you know, a lot of shows on Hulu, that are big money makers, aren't tonally "right" for Disney+. Will they put them on anyway, or create a new streaming service?

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