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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
@Synchronicity - You are not alone in saying that. Loki felt more like the TVA show - ultimately designed to introduce Kang and the concept of the Multiverse - it just happened to feature Loki.
Listening to a guy we've never met before sitting behind his desk, while the two protagonists literally take a seat so he can dump exposition for 30 minutes? Not my idea of a a season finale. It just made the whole show seem like a six hour trailer for upcoming phase 4 projects which most likely won't even feature Loki.
@PizzaDog11 - The saving grace of Agatha that the others don't have is that she was introduced relatively early on in the show, and while many could guess the twist or figured it out ahead of time, it also works to have it that Agatha put on this whole act as the nosy neighbor so that it would hit Wanda hard when she discovered her neighbor was someone who wanted to do terrible things to her because of something Wanda didn't know much about.
Yep, the way Fisk and Kilgrave were revealed in Daredevil and Jessica Jones worked effectively. With Fisk, we don't see him, but we can infer enough about him from things like the fact that Wesley is insistent that people not say his name, and saying it scares the sociopathic John Healy enough to immediately kill himself upon giving it up to Matt. Already, we get the picture that this man is someone who's incredibly dangerous. It actually is such that when we see Fisk in the flesh at the end of the third episode (right after Healy dies), we know a lot about how he works. Then episode 4 serves to start developing Fisk, even humanize him to a degree. He seems almost like an ordinary guy on his date with Vanessa, then we see why he's so feared when he kills Anatoly with that car door.
With Kilgrave, it was something similar. We get flashes of his hand, and we can hear his voice, during the first episode. And we're shown what his powers can do through him making Hope kill her parents. The second episode keeps him in shadow, but has that scene where he takes over a family's apartment. The third episode finally lets us see him in the flesh when Jessica sees him right after she saves Simpson from jumping off the roof.
Luke Cage also did its villain intros effectively for arguably everyone save for Diamondback. Of course, there was no twist or anything, so Mariah, Shades and Cottonmouth were introduced right away and let the dialogue establish their characters. Bushmaster's intro in season 2 was the same thing, as we get that cool scene of him killing Nigel before taking a few clips of bullets from Nigel's guards to show off his enhancement.
Edited by dmcreif on Feb 8th 2022 at 8:07:22 AM
Okey Dokey!Ya know a fun thought, if we ever do like another WW 2 Cap movie we could lean more into the weird science and pulp stuff.
Ya know the first movie is pretty grounded for the most part cause the MCU hasn't fully transitioned into the full super so it be pretty fun now that such stuff is more accepted we could go all in on the craziness.
All that Hellboy/Wolfenstein crazy-ass science war machines and occult sorcery cults, and plus appearances by WW 2 era superheroes like the Invaders which include the original robot Human Torch and his sidekick Toro along with Namor, WW 2-era Wolverine, and an immortal Nick Fury (Jesus when was that guy born?).
The Captain Carter episode of What If did lay more into that since we got stuff like a WW 2 mini-mecha Iron Man suit and Red Skull summoning a Cthulu-esque monster.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 9th 2022 at 1:10:24 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Not sure I'd call Raimi Otto or even Raimi Norman Peter's friends. At best, he just knew of them in his personal life and barely interacted with them.
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I always thought it would be cool if they retconned Heinrich Zemo to have been secretly loyal to HYDRA during World War II, and we would get to see some of the atrocities he committed in the forties, and some of the decades afterward. It would be one hell of a reveal for Helmut Zemo, and could lead to some interesting character development.
Or just have him be a plain old Nazi. It's not like the Nazis weren't horrifically evil.
One former poster a while back once noted that it was kind of bullshit that the MCU portrayed HYDRA as somehow worse than the Nazis. It kind of downplayed the true horror of Nazi Germany.
Note that the comics HYDRA didn't have this issue because they were full blown Nazis too. Red Skull, Wolfgang Von Strucker, Heinrich Zemo...Nazis all.
Edited by M84 on Feb 9th 2022 at 9:45:20 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedHe has done a lot of musical theater, including John Laurens/Phillip Hamilton from Hamilton and the main guy from the In the Heights movie.
The legend has returned.Man. Between getting Charlie Cox and Andrew Garfield back, on top of the Rogers: The Musical thing in Hawkeye, it looks like Kevin Feige really likes going to plays, huh?
Edited by MatthewWayne on Feb 9th 2022 at 11:46:26 AM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."So apparently, Steven Soderbergh thinks there's no sex in super-hero movies.
His criticism was considerably milder than what we've heard from other non-super-hero-film directors, as he doesn't accuse super-hero films specifically or genre films in general of destroying the film industry, but he does seem to feel that super-hero films aren't grounded in reality like the films he likes to make (subject to opinion, but fair), and one of the things he cites as an example of their lack of grounding is that it doesn't appear that anyone is having sex in super-hero films.
I'd say this is less of a criticism and more a declaration of personal taste, but objectively, I dunno what super-hero films he's seen, but while there isn't much in the way of explicit sex scenes in super-hero films, there are a lot of super-hero films with implied sex.
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In fairness, not every MCU film has a whole lot of room for gratuitous sex.
Like, where are you gonna fit a lovemaking scene in Civil War, Endgame, Shang-Chi or Winter Soldier?
I will say I'm glad that Sodenburgh didn't just jump on the Marvel hate bandwagon, since it would be pretty dickish for him to do after elevating the Russos' careers.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Feb 9th 2022 at 12:08:26 PM
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The Boys (2019) here to fill the niche of gross super-sex.
I think it also comes down to the actor/acting choices (or as the kids call it, 'does X fuck?'). The MCU protagonists overall are written to be fairly family friendly, so I never get the sense that they're boning offscreen or something.
Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 9th 2022 at 2:24:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to dissent on that. Sex scenes in movies are notoriously unsexy even in the best of circumstances, I really don't think we need more of them.
I'm of the mind we need to improve the romance as well.
There's also the fact that many actresses in the MCU don't really like being overly sexualized, so I'm not sure if a bunch of lovemaking scenes would help in that regard.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Feb 9th 2022 at 12:26:02 PM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."

I'm just reminded of the original Batman films, where the actors playing the villains would often receive top-billing over the actor playing Batman. That would never happen today unless it was an explicitly villain-focused film.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 8th 2022 at 7:25:56 AM