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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139427: Feb 1st 2022 at 1:28:39 PM

I'm reminded that Kaine's Scarlet Spider series had him operate in Texas while Agent Venom for a time operated in Philadelphia.

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#139428: Feb 1st 2022 at 1:53:22 PM

[up][up] Y'know, I really hope we get at least one of those joke What Ifs in Season 2. Like, I'd really like to see what would happen if Nebula, Ant-Man, Rocket, Thor and the Hulk got stuck in an elevator during the events of Endgame.

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#139429: Feb 1st 2022 at 1:55:10 PM

I don’t know if one joke idea could carry an episode

But an anthology episode would be great. Two or three more substantial ideas, shorter gags spread around

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#139431: Feb 1st 2022 at 2:16:00 PM

Good times

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139433: Feb 1st 2022 at 2:32:10 PM

It's the Invincible Limo Man!

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AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#139434: Feb 1st 2022 at 4:26:17 PM

An opinion:

The Marvel Cinematic Universe should utilize the characters from its predecessors Timely Comics and Atlas Comics besides Jimmy Woo. It's interesting to see the Marvel Cinematic Universe explore the Cold War era using superheroes and characters existing during the 1950s-1960s, hinted by The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

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#139435: Feb 1st 2022 at 8:50:26 PM

Honestly, as far as What If...? stories go, I'd love to see one along the lines of "What if, at the end of the airport battle in Captain America: Civil War, Vision shot down Tony Stark instead of James Rhodes?"

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139436: Feb 1st 2022 at 9:09:05 PM

If we're doing Civil War What Ifs, I'm just curious about what Crossbones' bioweapon was gonna be. It wasn't the zombie plague fortunately, but I bet there's still stories to go along with that.

For all we know, Crossbones releasing the bioweapon could delay the Sokovia Accords, and Wanda will have less guilt on her consciousness...

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139437: Feb 2nd 2022 at 3:27:39 AM

An anthology episode of gag what ifs would be good stuff.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139438: Feb 2nd 2022 at 6:38:39 PM

So best trilogy?

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#139439: Feb 2nd 2022 at 6:39:13 PM

The Cap trilogy is the most consistent in quality so I'm giving it to him.

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#139440: Feb 2nd 2022 at 6:44:19 PM

To this day I do not really consider Civil War a Captain America movie, even though it's labeled as such and focuses on him.

Edited by Fighteer on Feb 2nd 2022 at 9:44:34 AM

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#139441: Feb 2nd 2022 at 6:50:13 PM

I'd probably give it to the spider-man trilogy, but it's a very close run with Cap (I love Winter Soldier and Civil War).

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139442: Feb 2nd 2022 at 7:43:14 PM

Iron Man's trilogy is the most consistent, but also had a shit ton of Executive Meddling that made the second two movies not as great as the first.

Cap's trilogy was pretty great overall, and is pretty consistent. I do feel that there might be too many people involved, but it's still Steve's story.

Thor's first two films didn't really grab me, and while Ragnarok was definitely a step up, it did feel completely different from the previous tone. So as a trilogy, not my favorite.

Spider-Man is similar to Thor in that the third installment hooked me more than the first two, but it's different in that the tone is still consistent with the overall themes. So I'd say it's much better.

That said, I feel it's really hard to judge any of these trilogies because every one of them had one or more movies in between that affects the events of their solo movies.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Feb 2nd 2022 at 7:43:44 AM

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#139443: Feb 2nd 2022 at 7:44:53 PM

I'd say Cap, then Spidey. I think the first Iron Man film is great, and the others...not so much. I think the Thor films have gotten increasingly better since the first, as they've more firmly established "Cosmic Marvel," but I honestly think they've been the weakest of any of the Marvel films.

I think all of the Marvel films have been pretty good (Since Iron Man), with some of them being really good. That's a pretty good track record for so many films.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#139444: Feb 2nd 2022 at 7:57:14 PM

Captain America is the only one where I enjoyed all three films (though I dearly wish he got a proper Cap 3 instead of Civil War being an Avengers film in disguise, although it was infinitely better than AOU).

Spidey is the next best as it had one great film and two alright ones.

The others had at least one terrible film, so they're out.

Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 2nd 2022 at 10:58:55 AM

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Former King
#139445: Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:00:17 PM

Captain America for me. I feel like all of the trilogies have movies that are better than the best of Cap's (1 for Iron Man, Ragnarok for Thor, and No Way Home for Spidey), but his movies are much more consistently good: 2 and Killian are bad for Tony, Thor and The Dark World are only interesting when Loki's onscreen, and the previous Spider-Man movies kind of suffer from being so close to Tony.

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#139446: Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:02:10 PM

[up][up]What is the great film in your mind (for spidey)? I think they're all great, but that's just me.

Edited by jjjj2 on Feb 2nd 2022 at 11:02:25 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#139447: Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:02:14 PM

I'd agree that of the three of them, the Cap series is the one with the best consistent quality.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:02:20 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#139448: Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:04:17 PM

[up][up] No Way Home. The other two were fine but I wish I liked them more than I did.

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#139449: Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:08:04 PM

Well No Way Home definitely was my favorite of the trilogy, no question on that.

Edited by jjjj2 on Feb 2nd 2022 at 11:08:11 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139450: Feb 2nd 2022 at 8:09:11 PM

Funny that Cap, Spidey, and Thor are getting post-trilogy films.

Though poor Tony's left out. tongue

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