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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#139301: Jan 29th 2022 at 7:15:42 AM

Not likely,but they'll probably privately tell her that if she continues to double down they won't back her,she'll also find other groups aside from Disney/Marvel will be less likely to choose her for acting roles if they think she's become a liability to their image

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#139302: Jan 29th 2022 at 7:36:30 AM

Like Wright, Lilly's got some amount of lowercase "problematic" views that are only getting hyper-focused on now because she, like Wright, has decided to turn her stupid takes to the literal pandemic. Also like Wright, the takes aren't enough for Lilly to be removed just for them, though Disney is likely to twist her arm to get her to stop though. She'll probably go the traditional apology route though, unlike Wright who had to full-on nuke her socials and ghost.

One of the bigger videos Wright shared was straight-up transphobic and reeked of hotepery, and to Lilly's credit she hasn't fucked up that bad. Also people are freaking out about Shuri potentially becoming the new Black Panther, whereas no one really cares that much about Wasp (and we're already clearly getting a replacement in Stature).

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139303: Jan 29th 2022 at 8:44:23 AM

If they need a high-ranking Kree parent for Teddy Jude Law's character is still available as a sperm donor.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139304: Jan 29th 2022 at 8:48:09 AM

Wasn't Yon-Rogg rather anti Skrull?

Mar-Vell can be one Teddy biological parents, i don't think that needs to change.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#139305: Jan 29th 2022 at 8:55:22 AM

Maybe Mar-Vell set up some test tube babies and never completed the experiment on account of death

Someone finds the embryos and thaws them, pops them in some surrogates, and that’s how you get Teddy and Phyla and I guessssss Genis if you must

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 29th 2022 at 11:55:40 AM

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139306: Jan 29th 2022 at 9:48:37 AM

Nobody must do Gensis.

I think Phylla can be aged up. As Drax isn't human in this setting, and Thanos' had been doing his thing for a looooong while, Moondragon can be any age.

Test tube Hulkling works for me, but the alternative of secret child between Yon-rogg and a Skrull Princess is delightfully juicy as an idea. Especially as Yon-Rogg is probably more highly regarded by Kree society than Mar'vell.

As long as Mar'vell has at least one child remain her child I'd be happy, given that in comics Mar'vell shadow on the 616 is very long indeed.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139307: Jan 29th 2022 at 10:45:41 AM

So wait, what exactly is Hulking? Is he a half-alien half-Hulk child? What does he do?

My lack of knowledge regarding the actual comics is starting to creep in...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#139308: Jan 29th 2022 at 10:47:23 AM

Hulkling is half Kree half Skrull and apparently the Prophesized Chosen King of All Space despite the Skrulls and Kree controlling a relatively incredibly tiny portion of space

He thought he was maybe a Hulk because he was green

Anyway he’s the son of Captain Marvel and the token good Skrull princess.

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 29th 2022 at 1:50:42 PM

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#139309: Jan 29th 2022 at 10:48:22 AM

He's called Hulking because he's green and big, no relationship to the Hulk. All of the Young Avengers were purposefully aping looks of the original Avengers. Wiccan used to be called Asgardian, like Thor, to fit into that theming.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#139310: Jan 29th 2022 at 10:48:57 AM

EDIT: [nja][nja]

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 29th 2022 at 10:49:24 AM

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#139312: Jan 29th 2022 at 10:51:53 AM

I think of the original crop of Young Avengers, only Billy and Stature turned out to actually be related to an Avenger. Although in Billy’s case it was by weird magical retroactive reincarnation.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139313: Jan 29th 2022 at 10:58:57 AM

So wait, Hulkling isn't related to the Hulk? That's a pretty big Non-Indicative Name then...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139314: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:01:47 AM

Hulkling is quite literally a space refugee so pretending to be related to Hulk is a pretty good false identity.

Ya know in the case of Moondragon they could go more esoteric with her since she is a wizard. Maybe gain a variant of Drax’s original origin where she died but winds up being resurrecting in a different body. Drax at first was just a regular human who got murdered by Thanos and was then brought back to life in the Destroyer body to hunt down Thanos.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 29th 2022 at 11:09:09 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#139315: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:08:10 AM

She’s a psychic, I thought

And the rare non mutant psychic

She just trained super hard on Titan and unlocked all of her mental potential, then went mad with power, then realized she liked women, and is pretty mellow now after being eaten by her alternate universe self

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139316: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:10:22 AM

She’s also possessed by the demonic entity the Dragon of the Moon.

A big space Devil dragon essentially.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#139317: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:11:13 AM

...Comics are so damn weird sometimes.

The legend has returned.
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#139318: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:15:49 AM

I've been saying that they should change his name to Marvelman.

Marvel owns that name now, and the character who was previously known by it is now better known as Miracleman.

It's a nice way to tie him to his father without stripping away Carol's current alias.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139319: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:19:16 AM

[up][up] Is it weirder than the psychic cosmonaut dog who is a one dog security force of the head of a detached Celestial? tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#139320: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:22:04 AM

Cosmo is intentionally weird and was conseived as much, which is different from someone that became weird after years of comic book stuff happening to someone.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#139321: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:24:50 AM

Uh comics being weird is one of the best parts. Let's be honest.

Edited by miraculous on Jan 29th 2022 at 11:25:00 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#139322: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:32:40 AM

I didn't deny that. After all, you write these characters for years and crazy shit happens to keep things from being boring.

The legend has returned.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#139323: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:33:49 AM

Unpopular opinion: I absolutely hate the Young Avengers and sincerely hope none of them ever gets put on screen tongue

EDIT: Well, technically some of them already were, so silly me.

Edited by Forenperser on Jan 29th 2022 at 8:34:05 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139324: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:35:49 AM

We already got multiple Young Avengers characters, they are clearly building up to them.

[up][up] Like yeah it gets fucking ridiculous but it is a more fun kind of ridiculous compared to Dragon Ball's "Oh no those 2 Godlike beings are gonna destroy the universe if they keep punching each other."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#139325: Jan 29th 2022 at 11:46:55 AM

Western superhero comic book weirdness is more. Uh. “Wow that sure is a lot of things that happened to one person in like five years” rather than power level biz

Not that there isn’t power level biz. -coughs in Flash-

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 29th 2022 at 2:47:19 PM

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