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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#139026: Jan 18th 2022 at 6:24:47 AM

[up]Seems to be a jackal.

Edited by Akirakan on Jan 18th 2022 at 9:25:00 AM

SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#139027: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:13:05 AM

Where is that picture from?

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#139028: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:16:20 AM

Jeff Lemire's run, early issues. In the run proper the story zigzags whether the things he's beating up are actually jackals or regular human thugs he's hallucinating as such, which is something I'm expecting to see here too.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139029: Jan 18th 2022 at 9:19:16 AM

I also said this in the Moon Knight thread, but I think it's interesting that Moon Knight is our first new hero to have a cape. Gotta wonder if he'll have a practical reason for having it like Doctor Strange does, or if it's just to make him look cool like Thor and Vision.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#139030: Jan 18th 2022 at 9:33:03 AM

In the comics he occasionally uses it as a glider allá Batman but don't know if they'll keep that up.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#139031: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:35:28 PM

Any chance Dane Whitman shows up in Moon Knight? I noticed the series is set in London but the museum doesn't seem to be the same one as in Eternals.

Do the characters have any connection in the comics btw?

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EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
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#139032: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:38:29 PM

As far as I can tell, they've only met once in a West Coast Avengers annual.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#139033: Jan 19th 2022 at 12:55:13 AM

It's possible but doesn't seem likely to me (beyond maybe a cameo.) There doesn't really seem any real connection between the characters except maybe location.

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#139034: Jan 19th 2022 at 6:26:52 AM

One of MK's enemies is Black Spectre, a guy in a black knight armor, but they're (there have been different guys taking the mantle) completely unrelated to Black Knight and they don't have powers, it's all from tech.

However, considering the changes they're making with Spector's backstory here (he lives in London, and works in a museum, which has never happened in the comics) I wouldn't be surprised if they change Black Spectre to be somewhat related to Black Knight in some way. I doubt it, since the length of the series wouldn't give them too much time to focus on two enemies, but there's a thin connection there if you want to see it that way.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#139035: Jan 19th 2022 at 9:01:11 AM

I could see Marvel just doing a tokyo drifft and making Black Knight-Blade-Moon Knight be part of a supernatural avengers-esque team (probably Midnight Suns) and setting that up during a MK post-credit scene or somesuch.

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#139036: Jan 19th 2022 at 9:08:55 AM

Yeah, we know there's at least a connection between Blade and Black Knight. I think any connections between Moon Knight and Blade are just rumors at this point, but given they both fall into the more supernatural side of Marvel, it would fit.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#139037: Jan 19th 2022 at 9:57:21 AM

I can definitely see a couple of teams.

For the supernatural-geared one, Blade and Black Knight seem to already be linked and Moon Knight makes sense as well. And presumably Werewolf By Night when he shows up. I also kind of see Shang Chi on the team both because he's kind of supernatural and more so because he fits with the general 70's pulpiness of the others.

Doesn't seem right for the team to be a complete sausage fest. I wonder who else could be on the team. Wanda?

On the other side of things, I believe Moon Knight has a connection to Echo in some comics so I wouldn't be surprised if they team up for a street level "Defenders/ Heroes for Hire" like team. Shang Chi might also make sense for that kind of team.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jan 19th 2022 at 11:58:31 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#139038: Jan 19th 2022 at 10:24:17 AM

When I watched Eternals the other day, I somehow completely missed that was supposed to Blade in The Stinger. I was able to pick-up on the Black Knight connection, but I guess I just can't pick up on Mahershala Ali's voice on its own.

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#139039: Jan 19th 2022 at 10:36:40 AM

[up]×2

Though Defenders aren't usually Street Level heroes.

It seems one of the Strange variants in Mo M will be called Defender Strange too.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#139040: Jan 19th 2022 at 10:58:25 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Moon Knight and Daredevil pretty close friends in the comics? It would be interesting to see them work together in the MCU if that's the case...

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#139041: Jan 19th 2022 at 11:16:57 AM

London does have quite a few museums.

Bringing together the supernatural characters would definitely be cool.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#139042: Jan 19th 2022 at 11:43:54 AM

Britain literally has Captain Britain whose sister is the X-Men Psylocke and lead a team called MI 13.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#139043: Jan 19th 2022 at 11:44:11 AM

Semi-random question. (How) do Daredevil and Echo communicate?

I'm not that familiar with the comics version of Maya, but my impression was that the MCU version of her didn't really speak.

Does Dardevil's Disability Superpower allow him to read lips/see sign language?

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#139044: Jan 19th 2022 at 11:53:59 AM

[up]Daredevil is blind, not deaf. He hears fine and can talk fine.

Edit: Unless you mean with each other. Which I'd say Daredevil probably can "see" sign language with his powers.

Edited by Hawkeye86 on Jan 19th 2022 at 2:58:06 PM

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#139045: Jan 19th 2022 at 11:59:23 AM

I meant communicate with each other, since Matt can speak and hear but can't see and Maya can see but can't speak or hear.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#139046: Jan 19th 2022 at 12:00:25 PM

Britain literally has Captain Britain whose sister is the X-Men Psylocke and lead a team called MI 13.

Indeed. Technically, Brian Braddock (the original Captain Britain before Psylocke took on the role) was one of the few non mutants to be part of an X-Man team, via the original X-calibur.

And the X-men don't have many non-mutant members (who weren't retconned into it, like say, Pietro was).

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#139047: Jan 19th 2022 at 12:01:01 PM

Daredevil is pretty ridiculous with his whole radar. Sign language would be pretty plausible for him should he try to learn it.

Edited by Blueace on Jan 19th 2022 at 5:02:23 PM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#139048: Jan 19th 2022 at 12:04:56 PM

Some blind people communicate with sign language users by holding hands so they can feel the signs being made.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#139049: Jan 19th 2022 at 12:05:22 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Moon Knight and Daredevil pretty close friends in the comics? It would be interesting to see them work together in the MCU if that's the case...

No, not really. Moon Knight is generally pretty alienated from the rest of the heroes. He is more tolerated than say The Punisher, but hardly anyone would call him friend.

Moon Knight is part of the street level heroes, so he has done his fair share of team-ups with Daredevil and the like, but he is definitely not close personally to any of them.

The biggest group of superhero friends he got was during his time in West Coast Avengers, with Hawkeye, Wonder Man, and Tigra (with whom he even started a romantic relationship). He also had a romantic relationship with Echo.

One of the most interesting ones that wasn't explored enough was his friendship with Sentry. They both had mental problems and it's clear they wanted to pull a Superman/Batman parallel with them.

Edited by Akirakan on Jan 19th 2022 at 3:12:19 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#139050: Jan 19th 2022 at 12:22:02 PM

@Tuckerscreator -

That makes sense. I think maybe a better way of phrasing the question is that I wonder if there's any way Dardevil could communicate with Maya that wouldn't reveal that he's blind/that he's Matt Murdock.

I also vaguely could see someone like Moon Knight, Yelena, and/or Shang Chi being a Translator Buddy and there being a line about how they learned ASL so they could communicate on missions without speaking.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jan 19th 2022 at 2:23:31 PM


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