TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Go To

Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#138851: Jan 15th 2022 at 3:24:27 AM

M'Baku definitely seems like a logical choice; I've seen a lot of people suggest him. Before we found out about the Wright situation Shuri would have been my first choice, but if she's staying in the role then I'd definitely rather not.

DoubleOG (Apprentice)
#138852: Jan 15th 2022 at 4:50:50 AM

I heard that they actually paid her to take the vaccine.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#138853: Jan 15th 2022 at 4:57:55 AM

That does seem like the most logical conclusion

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#138854: Jan 15th 2022 at 6:09:04 AM

So Wright did see reason. A lot of reasons. A lot of green Ben-Franklin-faced reasons. [lol]

Seriously though she's still on my shit-list after her antivaxxer stint and while the rumors of her continuing it on set have been shaky that's not behavior that just turns off by nuking their Twitter. So as long as she's not causing problems I don't really have much to grind an axe on but I still don't like her keeping the role (especially when she's likely intended to be a female role model as a scientist!) and I can't help but feel it's only a matter of time before the pin drops.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138855: Jan 15th 2022 at 7:21:27 AM

Yeah, I figure this is gonna be another Gina Carano situation at some point. It's a shame things have to be kike this.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138856: Jan 15th 2022 at 7:24:01 AM

M'Baku is a much more interesting choice for Black Panther than Shuri anyway.

The legend has returned.
SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138858: Jan 15th 2022 at 7:42:14 AM

I would say they are already giving away quite a bit with the tease. Is he beating up Anubis?

Edited by SAwatching on Jan 15th 2022 at 5:43:00 PM

Sincerely S Awatching.
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#138859: Jan 15th 2022 at 8:20:53 AM

I'm cool with M'Baku being the new Black Panther. Heck, I think Winston Duke would've made a good recast for T'Challa if he hadn't already been part of the franchise.

Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks Marathon
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138860: Jan 15th 2022 at 8:23:26 AM

Can’t wait for the synergy when M’Baku becomes black panther in the comic (sincere)

I don’t think they’ve done that before. But to be fair there’s a non jerk space M’Baku who is the likeliest to get the job

I don’t even remember where original flavor M’Baku is currently

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138861: Jan 15th 2022 at 8:23:33 AM

In the previous trailer the same shot was shown and he was seemingly just beating up a random guy. Knowing Moon Knight, there's a 70% chance he's beating up a random guy he's hallucinating as a Anubis-like creature/sees for his true form as a Anubis-like creature.

[up] Dead, I think. Original M'baku was killed during A Nation Under Our Feet.

Edited by Gaon on Jan 15th 2022 at 8:24:47 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#138862: Jan 15th 2022 at 8:33:37 AM

I doubt Marvel would ever kick out Letitia over being anti-vax when they kept Gwyneth Paltrow despite her literally running an alternative medicine scam company.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138863: Jan 15th 2022 at 9:26:58 AM

Gotta say, I'm not really a fan of Ethan Hawke's hairstyle. He looks like a mix of Jared Leto and the guy who aged himself to death by drinking the water in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138864: Jan 15th 2022 at 9:55:06 AM

He's in all likelihood playing this guy (the Sun King) so the hair tracks. The beard seems to be missing though.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138865: Jan 15th 2022 at 10:13:58 AM

M’Baku is already the champion of his people so if anyone is qualified to become the Black Panther it’s him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#138866: Jan 15th 2022 at 10:15:46 AM

He almost became Black Panther himself in the first movie to.

He's not a bad choice all things considered.

That being said, I'm surprised they haven't considered Nakia or Okoye as well.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138867: Jan 15th 2022 at 10:19:05 AM

If i had to handwave a handwave in universe M’Baku gets the nod to try to create solidarity between the Jabari and the rest of Wakanda

But like they already seemed to get along pretty well when they helped fight Thanos

Diplomacy is an ongoing process though

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138868: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:04:28 AM

Wait M'Baku got killed in the Coates run?

Was that before or after the movie came out?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#138869: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:06:13 AM

M'baku can become the Black Panther without becoming king right? That would make an interesting dynamic.

I'd imagine T'challa's step mother would become queen.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#138870: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:09:47 AM

Though the cartoon is, now, super dated and old fashioned at this point, I'd be down for a homage to think banging theme song when the make the Fantastic Four movie.

It's probably not going to happen because Hanna Barbera, but still. Plus, I guess the whole homage to the classic Iron Man cartoon theme in the first Iron Man was a sort of Early-Installment Weirdness, seeings as Marvel Studios never did anything like that again.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 15th 2022 at 11:10:02 AM

jdeo1997 BLADE Pathfinders from Orion–Cygnus Arm Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
BLADE Pathfinders
#138871: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:10:46 AM

[up]x5 Got to agree, as I thought Nakia would be a fine choice for the next Black Panther

Edited by jdeo1997 on Jan 15th 2022 at 2:11:01 PM

Attachments are not the problem, Indifference is. Keelah se'lai
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138872: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:17:22 AM

[up][up][up] Though Ramonda is his biological mother in this continuity.

Interesting about that since in the comics Ramonda is not only his step-mother but a foreigner so she actually is somewhat unpopular with the Wakandan people.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#138873: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:17:45 AM

[up]x3: I'm a fan of the orchestra take on Spider-Man (1967) theme used for MCU Spidey, so I wouldn't mind a similar rendition for the Fantastic Four. That, or it could just be a simple as a ringtone excerpt from Johnny's phone. Though we could crack two birds with one stone...

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jan 15th 2022 at 2:18:03 PM

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#138874: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:30:01 AM

I think my picks for Black Panther go, in order:

-Okoye

- M'Baku

- Nakia

-Kevin Kole (I understand that shorthand this name probably creates some baggage, but in short this would be a fairly heavily reworked version of the character who is still Wakandan-native, but one of those deep cover agents Killmonger mentioned, maybe based in New York?)

-No Black Panther at all, leave the mantle empty for a movie

- Shuri (even independent of the Letitia Wright issues, one of the things I like about the Black Panther of the movies is that, while he does have a sense of humor, he generally brings a greater dignity to the role than we've seen in a lot of Marvel offerings, and I feel like making Shuri the Black Panther will either take that away or force Shuri to change to fit a niche that worked in the comics where she's a completely different character)

Do not bring back Killmonger. Do not do it. If you want to do a redemption arc storyline, W'kabi is right there (still lower than Shuri though) and doesn't require you to resurrect the former main villain of the first movie and spit in the face of your reasoning for not recasting out of respect for the real-life tragic passing of your lead.

Edited by Khfan429 on Jan 15th 2022 at 11:31:36 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138875: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:43:57 AM

I personally am not a fan of Shuri as a possible Black Panther because in the grand scope of Disney, she would just be yet another rebellious princess type that is both commonplace and annoying.

The legend has returned.

Total posts: 186,763
Top