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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#138676: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:36:44 PM

God fucking damnit. Maybe wiping that from continuity at the end was for the best.

Don't forget; it wasn't just bestiality, it was necrobestiality!


But yeah, it's always really weird to me in sci-fi settings where not only do all the aliens look like humans, but they're somehow romantically or even genetically compatible with each other. Why did the Xandarians look exactly like humans? How was that one guy able to make a child with some magenta alien woman?

Unless there's some powerful theological force in play— some kind of micromanaging creator deity guiding all life to evolve toward a similar genetic outcome —it kinda breaks my suspension of disbelief.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:37:17 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138677: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:38:15 PM

The Celestials, I think?

Either that was an explanation given for why most aliens in Marvel look vaguely the same or I'm conflating it with Doctor Who.

Although, I think Star Trek had a similar explanation so its douchey cosmic beings all the way down.

But yeah, in Marvel there really are space gods going around messing with genetics on planets all across space.

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:38:54 AM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#138678: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:38:53 PM

I mean, there are reasons beyond baby making to want to be with someone.

But in Marvel you can explain away most weird similarities like [up] said with "Celestials did it." Or the Kree. Or Skrulls.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:40:26 AM

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#138679: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:42:08 PM

Just a reminder we already have a relationship between a human and an anthropomorphic duck in an alternate universe.

Also as a reminder please don’t look up duck reproduction.

Edited by 123tbones on Jan 6th 2022 at 7:42:47 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#138680: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:44:03 PM

[up][up][up]I haven't actually seen Eternals yet so I don't know if it confirms anything about higher beings controlling and guiding evolution across the cosmos within the MCU.

[up]You don't wanna learn about labyrinthine vaginas and corkscrew penises?

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:45:58 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138681: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:44:31 PM

Forget the Multiverse, this is the true madness of the MCU!

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138682: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:46:35 PM

Since we got our first explicitly homosexual character in Phastos, hopefully we can bump it up to Phyla-Vell and Moondragon.

I kinda hope Phyla has a chance at appearing in Marvels since she was Captain Marvel before as well as being the daughter of Mar-Vell himself.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#138683: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:47:11 PM

I think it's just a holdover fantasy trope, from back when Half-Human Hybrids were an accepted possibility because we didn't know about genetics.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138684: Jan 6th 2022 at 7:54:14 PM

I remember it was a thing in the X Wing books.

Of course, in Star Wars aliens mostly can't crossbreed so the human and bothan were going to adopt. Before she faked her death because specifically fuck Borsk Fey'lya. Which was a common sentiment at the time.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138685: Jan 6th 2022 at 8:18:14 PM

I think some people keep the aliens anatomically similar to humans because we all know they won't be if we ever meet them IRL.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138686: Jan 6th 2022 at 8:41:40 PM

And don't forget, most if not all of Howard the Duck's love interests are humans.

The legend has returned.
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138687: Jan 6th 2022 at 10:00:00 PM

Dumb late-night fanfic idea: make a Law & Order style crime drama about TVA agents finding and arresting variants, and their trials after being incarcerated before their respective judges.

Yay or nay?

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138688: Jan 6th 2022 at 10:44:31 PM

I always thought Loki was a show about this hilarious 1950's Kafkanesque temporal nightmare agency tinged by satire....and also Loki feeeling sorry for himself. It just so happens that to my great sadness the latter is the focus rather than the former, so I'd have pretty much liked a TVA show.

By now I think that boat has well and truly sailed though, what with TVA becoming Kang's footsoldiers in earnest after Sylvie killed HWR.

Edited by Gaon on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:44:57 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138690: Jan 7th 2022 at 11:54:03 AM

https://postlmg.cc/s1SCySK8 There is a lot of posters leaking at the moment for love and thunder, aren't there. Don't look if you don't want spoilers.

Edited by SAwatching on Jan 7th 2022 at 9:54:47 PM

Sincerely S Awatching.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#138691: Jan 7th 2022 at 2:34:18 PM

That's na poster for more than just Love and Thunder by the looks of it. Looks like a phase 4 poster?

My one take away is Groot is taaaalllll now

Meistro2021 Since: Jul, 2021
#138692: Jan 7th 2022 at 2:55:39 PM

I am wondering, why won’t Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumanium count as a sequel to the Multiverse, like WV, Loki, NWH, and In The Multiverse of Madness?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138693: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:06:34 PM

I guess he loses his arm at some point and gets a golden one?

The legend has returned.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#138694: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:08:47 PM

Oh that would be comics accurate, I assumed it was just a sleeve

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138695: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:17:09 PM

You can see his fingers so they prolly are just sleeve though the color is prolly a reference to his golden arm.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#138696: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:22:31 PM

[up][up][up] I don't really know what's up with that. It started with Feige saying WV, NWH, and DS2 would be a spiritual trilogy, then someone added Loki into that grouping when the Kang reveal came out. With the growing focus on The Multiverse as a whole in Phase 4, the sections mentioning them on the pages should probably be deleted.

Not really sure how to feel about the costume. On one hand, very Jack Kirby. On the other, the helmet just feels weird after so many movies without it.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138697: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:30:37 PM

Quantumania being disconnected from the rest of the Multiverse-centered installments does seem a bit odd, especially since Kang is technically introduced in Loki and goes on to be a threat for Ant-Man and the Wasp.

And if Multiverse of Madness is supposed to put a cap on that arc, it does seem odd to put Kang after that resolution.

I'm not sure if I'd jump to delete Loki references on that section though, since Sylvie is responsible for the multiverse coming into existence, and we even see what it looks like in What If.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Jan 7th 2022 at 3:33:01 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#138698: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:36:31 PM

Personally, I'm expecting Kang to be the next Thanos. The next Avengers movie will probably be Young Avengers vs Dark Avengers, and then the one after that will be Avengers: Multiverse War.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jan 7th 2022 at 4:36:41 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#138699: Jan 7th 2022 at 4:07:37 PM

Thor's color scheme reminds me of SMT!Odin.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#138700: Jan 7th 2022 at 4:37:34 PM

The Kang in Quantumania might not even be the same Kang as in Loki Season Two, and it's possible that neither are the Kang that's the Big Bad of the next saga.

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