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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#138576: Jan 2nd 2022 at 11:47:20 AM

So, in a completely hypothetical scenario, if Marvel and Netflix were to work out an agreement:

If you had the power to choose, would you rather have Netflix continuing to produce content for the characters they had shows for or would you rather have shows produced on Disney + itself?

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#138577: Jan 2nd 2022 at 12:33:21 PM

That depends. Would Disney+ even be willing to broach topics and violence like those seen in Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and especially Punisher?

If not, then I'd prefer Netflix continues them.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138578: Jan 2nd 2022 at 12:39:05 PM

But why would they use Netflix for that when they have Hulu?

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#138579: Jan 2nd 2022 at 2:35:42 PM

Y'know, we all wonder what happened to Earth during the Snap's five-year interim, but I wonder if we'll ever get to see how the Snap affected things in space? Surely the Kree-Skrull conflict was affected by half of each side disappearing, and we still don't know what happened to Xandar or Sakaar. That would be a cool plot point to explore in Secret Invasion and/or The Marvels.

I think part of the reason people don't wonder about that is because space is such a non-entity right now. The MCU thus far has mostly used it to provide settings for cool action romps, but given us little in the way of an idea of what life is actually like out there. This is a consequence of our only spacefaring properties thus far being about a criminal mercenary band and an imperial soldier.

So our knowledge of things is limited to stuff like "Xandar: It sure does have Nova Corps" and "Hala: They have an imperialist military."

A lot of Earth-based properties have a similarly narrow scope with little in the way of actual Earth culture being shown. But the audience can fill in the gaps about what it's like to be a civilian on Earth.

So. Like. Before Marvel can tell us what it was like to experience the Blip on Hala, they would first need to tell us what it's like to even live on Hala at all.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 2nd 2022 at 2:36:35 AM

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#138580: Jan 2nd 2022 at 2:44:00 PM

[up] Well, we did get a taste of Hala's culture in Captain Marvel (2019). I'm sure it could be expanded upon a bit after the Snap in a future installment.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138581: Jan 2nd 2022 at 2:50:39 PM

We have absolutely no idea how the cosmic setting is doing.

Interesting to see how the rest of the galaxy is handling it.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#138582: Jan 2nd 2022 at 2:52:30 PM

They seem to be saving up for something cosmic. There's a lot of "the Avengers are in spaaaaace, doing spaaaaace things! What is it? Who knows? Spaaaaace!" and at this point it would be a mite disappointing if it was just lead-in for Secret Invasion: especially since that's predominantly an Earth-based story.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 2nd 2022 at 2:52:47 AM

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#138583: Jan 3rd 2022 at 2:02:00 AM

If you had the power to choose, would you rather have Netflix continuing to produce content for the characters they had shows for or would you rather have shows produced on Disney + itself?

The former.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138584: Jan 3rd 2022 at 9:27:26 AM

They don't really need Netflix for that anymore. They even have Hulu now.

Edited by Cortez on Jan 3rd 2022 at 1:33:59 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138585: Jan 3rd 2022 at 9:30:44 AM

It depends if they can make a show as hardcore as the Netflix ones were.

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#138586: Jan 3rd 2022 at 9:33:14 AM

I think they'd use Hulu if they decide to make something with a higher rating.

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#138587: Jan 3rd 2022 at 9:55:23 AM

Worth noting that Netflix has international reach and Hulu does not

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138588: Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:05:14 AM

That didn't stop them from ending their working relationship with Netflix.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#138589: Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:17:08 AM

Look, I know it's not a realistic scenario, that's why I labelled it hypothetical.

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#138590: Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:33:13 AM

There is a lot of talk going on that the High Evolutionary is appearing in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.

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Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#138591: Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:35:13 AM

I'm guessing they're a comics character? I haven't watched GOTG 2 in years so I forget if they were mentioned in that.

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#138592: Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:46:49 AM

He's pretty much a robot guy who does weird experiments on people.

EDIT: Okay, I keep forgetting that he's not a robot and that's just armor. In my defense, he's not shown outside of it a lot.

Edited by lbssb on Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:50:07 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138593: Jan 3rd 2022 at 10:49:37 AM

I believe he also creates animal people so they can prolly tie Rocket's origin to him

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#138594: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:09:48 AM

Oh, that would make sense to bring him in if they want to explore Rocket's backstory.

That said, taking all rumors with a grain of salt.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#138595: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:14:59 AM

A movie about Rocket's backstory, even if they change it to be connected to the Evolutionary, means a movie that's not about Peter trying to woo New! Gamora, so I'm down.

Also if they composite Rocket's backstory into High Evolutionary, they could maybe also composite Cosmo into it hopefully perhaps please.

And even more also, the High Evolutionary means we could also possibly get the greatest Marvel character of all time. I'm talking, of course, about Hippo.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:17:48 AM

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#138596: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:31:36 AM

I hope Guardians 3 introduces Lylla, Rocket's wife and heiress to a massive toymaking empire.

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#138597: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:38:36 AM

High Evolutionary has a bunch of easy aids for the plot of this film. He's directly involved in the comics in the backstory of Adam Warlock, and the Sovereign, while being a Canon Foreigner culture, could fairly easily link to him (as they're a group of genetically engineered perfect people, his stomping grounds). Rocket also, as mentioned.

Using him as a main villain would make a lot of sense, even if the rumours are (as usual) doubtful. So it's possible we're on the right track.

Edited by Gaon on Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:39:29 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138598: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:39:48 AM

[up][up] There's also Rocket's rival Blackjack O'Hare.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/blackjack_guardians_of_the_galaxy_3_cover_0.jpg

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#138599: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:44:45 AM

That’s the most Starfox character I’ve ever seen

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#138600: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:46:20 AM

That has to be a reference to Bucky O'Hare, right?

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