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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138551: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:03:39 PM

Yeah compared to the galaxy spanning space empires, Earth is just Earth. And it’s not even a united earth

The scale isn’t exactly right but it’s like if a big empire was cautious about a small backwater village or city state because it produced fearsome warriors

Like you’re going to want to think twice about poking it but you’re also not going to see it as any kind of center of culture or power

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Meistro2021 Since: Jul, 2021
#138552: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:05:21 PM

Hello! I just want to ask any of you if you saw my theories I have added in some of the MCU Movie WMG Pages? I mean if you liked any of my theories

Edited by Meistro2021 on Jan 1st 2022 at 3:10:18 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138553: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:22:57 PM

The name thing bothers me because it doesn't really make sense.

Like its an intergalactic setting so the characters interact with all manner of different aliens who came from various planets and unique cultures. The Guardians themselves are a diverse motley crew with Drax being a Katathien, Gamora a Whoverian, and Groot a Flora Colussus with all their names not following a unified theme.

So what is the standard for a weird name then? I mean Rocket is Rocket Raccoon, with names like that for our main characters it's rather hypocritical to constantly talk shit about other people's names.

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Meistro2021 Since: Jul, 2021
#138554: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:27:32 PM

I want to ask if any of you liked the theories I have thought of myself. Like, what about the ones from No Way Home?

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#138555: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:30:03 PM

Let's talk about them in the Spider-Man: No Way Home thread, I don't think we can talk about spoiler-heavy stuff like that here.

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Meistro2021 Since: Jul, 2021
#138556: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:30:43 PM

Sorry. Didn’t know. Just send me the link so I can get in the thread.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#138557: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:32:41 PM

[up]Right here.

Also, you might want to make a folder for them to show them so we can actually talk about them without having to scrounge around in the WMG pages, I'd think that help.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138559: Jan 1st 2022 at 3:53:13 PM

Man the evolution of the meaning of the Guardians of the Galaxy title is pretty funny.

Like the original acquisition of the name for the 2008 team is that they started out nameless but eventually through encountering a member of the future Guardians Major Victory they then adopted the Guardians name which fits because they are explicitly about defending the galaxy from all manner of threats. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes you can genuinely call them Guardians without a snicker because they are actually competent and powerful.

But ever since the movie they have placed heavier meaning on the name being ironic like a backhanded insult. Its a joke that they have to overcome, this group of misfits, failures, and losers being called the Guardians of the Galaxy. In the first movie Ronan basically uses it as a backhanded insult "Here are your Guardians of the Galaxy" and it just stuck afterwards.

And in the game Quill came up with it and its treated like how someone starts up a small business and they give themselves a ridiculously grandiose name to sound better to potential clientele that is obviously false to anyone with a brain. Hell a reoccurring gag is that when Rocket submitted the name to the galactic registry he misspelled it so they are officially the Gardeners of the Galaxy which causes Quill no end of annoyance.

The name is a joke because the team is kind of a joke. They have to prove themselves and turn the joke into something actually worthy of some respect and dignity.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138560: Jan 1st 2022 at 4:22:52 PM

"The scale isn't exactly right but it's like if a big empire was cautious about a small backwater village or city state because it produced fearsome warriors"

That there is exactly why Asterix was such a powerful comic book series. And that idea being reimagined from "a small Gaul village vs. the Roman Empire" into "one small Insignificant Blue Planet vs. random space empires" is pretty cool.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138561: Jan 1st 2022 at 11:03:21 PM

Unrelated to most things, it suddenly occurred to me how nightmarish the snap and unsnap must have been for the penal population of the world. Imagine you're a prisoner out on parole and you're snapped. When you come back (on top of being a former convict in a world that's even more ill-suited to your presence than the one you left behind) you're going to have to face a pretty thorough charges that you violated your parole. Imaginee you're incarcerated and half the guards and prisoners vanish without warning, something that could easily spark a riot/a counter riot in the general chaos. Imagine you're in jail and just 300 very confused and aggravated prisoners and guards just materialize out of thin air in random locales.

Imagine you're on death row and you are snapped. Resurrected solely to face execution once again.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138562: Jan 1st 2022 at 11:32:30 PM

[up] Something like that might be how Wilson Fisk managed to climb his way back into power again...

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#138563: Jan 2nd 2022 at 1:03:10 AM

[up][up] Well, while it would take time to get through all the legal red tape, I'd imagine people snapped on parole wouldn't have been considered to be breaking it. Can't exactly break the law when you're dead.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#138564: Jan 2nd 2022 at 1:56:09 AM

[up] Some places might of even had legislation, or at least some sort of plan, on the books for how to handle things if the blipped ever showed up again. SWORD at least had an official process for evaluating/reinstating agents that showed up again.

Still, it's likely that it was a total bureaucratic nightmare on many, many different levels. But I ultimately think "I didn't exist for 5 years" would be considered a valid excuse for not checking in with a parole officer for 5 years, who may very well of had the same experience.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#138565: Jan 2nd 2022 at 5:57:32 AM

If they played their cards right, a non-snapped person could get a five-year break from parole. [lol]

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#138566: Jan 2nd 2022 at 8:14:19 AM

Imagine the sheer frustration of coming back from being snapped moments after you won a 10 Million Dollar Lottery.

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#138567: Jan 2nd 2022 at 8:20:12 AM

Statistically speaking, some people were mid-coitus or using the bathroom when they snapped away.

So that's awkward.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 2nd 2022 at 8:20:37 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#138568: Jan 2nd 2022 at 8:47:59 AM

Hopefully Professor Hulk took that into account when he Snapped them all back.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138569: Jan 2nd 2022 at 8:49:30 AM

What if someone was already about to die in free fall when they got snapped? Would they just get up fine after they get blipped back?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#138570: Jan 2nd 2022 at 9:13:36 AM

Just assume The Snap snapped everyone and no one was left hanging or in peril

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#138571: Jan 2nd 2022 at 9:22:30 AM

The best explanation is that the rest of the galaxy views Earth as a Wretched Hive: full of dangerous individuals who can cause loads of havoc, but also a disorganized, low-class place, with no real power as a polity.

So Afghanistan then lol

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138572: Jan 2nd 2022 at 9:53:26 AM

Where empires go to die

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#138573: Jan 2nd 2022 at 11:13:05 AM

They should totally make a Disney+ show that's just an anthology of random people dealing with disappearing and reappearing 5 years later. Some of them would be minor MCU characters who may cross paths with someone significant, but for the most part it would be just random civilians.

That way we can answer questions like "what if someone was on an airplane" or "what if they come back to find their spouse has remarried?".

Very niche appeal perhaps, but it would be cheap to produce since it wouldn't need as many big name actors or a big special effects budget.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#138574: Jan 2nd 2022 at 11:14:47 AM

Maybe if they do a Marvels series it could be explored there.

I actually reread the graphic novel recently and was wondering how the MCU could do its own version of it.

Edited by lbssb on Jan 2nd 2022 at 11:20:32 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138575: Jan 2nd 2022 at 11:23:21 AM

Y'know, we all wonder what happened to Earth during the Snap's five-year interim, but I wonder if we'll ever get to see how the Snap affected things in space? Surely the Kree-Skrull conflict was affected by half of each side disappearing, and we still don't know what happened to Xandar or Sakaar. That would be a cool plot point to explore in Secret Invasion and/or The Marvels.

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