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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
On the note of Chavez having a bad run, it’s not that she had a bad run everyone does, but the fact her first ever shot at headlining her own title was bad and tremendously so.
Like it would have been okay if the book was just unmemorable at worst like a lot of ongoing tend to be, “forgettable but worth a read if your interested in the character.” But Gabby Rivera’s run on the book was flat out awful to immense proportions and due to Chavez’s recency would obviously hurt her image far more than Spider-Man or Iron Man getting a bad run.
The whole thing is incredibly unfortunate and a tragedy on how a bad writer can heavily stain a character.
Edited by slimcoder on Dec 23rd 2021 at 12:48:15 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Another bad effect was that a lot of online harassment got directed at Rivera and she left the Internet for a couple of years. I’ve read her first book (Juliet Takes A Breath) and I don’t think she’s a bad writer, she’s just new and has a very run-on sentences style that doesn’t translate well to comics. Some creatives need a couple of smaller works first to iron out their kinks before they’re ready for a big IP project.
Basically she was a Breakout Character, but her first breaths under her own name as a Breakout Character was an Audience-Coloring Adaptation of a Dork Age. So unfortunately that's what most people end up associating with her, even if it's not entirely fair.
The only things I know about America's solo are "Holy Menstration" and her apparently not being able to go two sentences without randomly bringing up that she's a lesbian from the Lesbian Dimension.
...Lesbian Dimension sounds like a cool band name.
Edited by lbssb on Dec 23rd 2021 at 8:32:51 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonAmerica Chavez, to explain the character, was a member of the Young Avengers, the Ultimates and West Coast Avengers who is a flying brick who can kick star shaped interdimentional portals. She comes from a different timeline and is the only her in the multiverse.
She's quiet, extremely self confident, gay and is Kate Bishop's best friend.
Edited by Whowho on Dec 23rd 2021 at 9:46:53 AM
It’s something you can claim when a character hasn’t been adapted yet
The Shadow King and Mojo are also supposed to be one of a kind in the multiverse.
So by that logic the Mojo from the X Men cartoon is the same as the one from the comics
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWait if they're going to adapt her to the MCU than how is she the only one in the multiverse? Unless the MCU-multiverse is siphoned off from the rest of the Marvel multiverse. (That was one of the points of Loki, although it's not true anymore...)
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the midShuma Gorath also has the distinction of being the same literal guy
in every universe.
Looking on the wiki, there are already at least 6 other Chavez's in the multiverse, not including tv shows and video games. I think it's safe to say the "only one in the multiverse" thing has been ignored. As for beings like the Shadow King or Shuma-Gorath, I just assume that since they're so powerful/eldritch any variants are merely offshoots or minor extensions of their being.
Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Dec 23rd 2021 at 1:59:40 AM
@Dean Cole Oh yeah that infamous panel, Kate’s dialogue there is fucking wild.
Kate: “I'm literally intrigued and in awe of both of them. [America and Magdalena] If this is what it's like to date other women, then I applaud all the women dating women right now because this is incredible. Motorcycle courtship chase? Check. Missiles and explosions? Check. And now "we're just flying together in the sky, heading to a giant heart." I swear, if they come back married I'm going to be so jealous. *sigh* Always the bride's best archer, never the archer-bride.”
Edited by slimcoder on Dec 23rd 2021 at 2:09:49 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Marvel once nixed a story for Secret Wars II where Kate actually came out as bi, so she’s trapped as the straightest girl who keeps insisting she’s totally not closeted while admiring gay romances and most of her friends and guys she dated are gay.
Gillen and McKelvie are considered My Real Daddy to America Chavez as they invented most of her current characterization and power set like star portals. Casey’s version was straight and couldn’t even teleport.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 23rd 2021 at 2:19:21 AM
I think as long as America Chavez keeps enough of the core aspects of her character to be recognizable as America Chavez, the movies will be able to create a version of the character that works well within the context of MoM with the flaws from her worse interpretations either eliminated or greatly diminished.
We know we are getting star-shaped portals anyways (there's a brief shot of Doctor Strange falling into one in the teaser).

> I know way too many white kids named "India".
[[insert video here about Katie Hopkins complaining about geographical names only to be reminded of what she named her daughter India]]
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