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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#138176: Dec 21st 2021 at 9:33:40 AM

[up]Thanos is one, as well as an Eternal, which Eternals confirmed is still true here. It's why he's purple and Eros isn't.

Edited by lbssb on Dec 21st 2021 at 10:41:07 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138177: Dec 21st 2021 at 10:09:32 AM

[up] Thanos and Eros being Eternals does confuse me. If the main group we followed were actually synthetic beings made by steampunk automaton gods for some higher purpose, then how are those two also Eternals, while also being able to live their own lives on their home planet?

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138178: Dec 21st 2021 at 1:10:28 PM

Maybe Eros is Thanos's adopted brother?

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#138179: Dec 21st 2021 at 1:40:55 PM

I like that as a theory. Eros might have been a defector who fled to Titan and was taken in my Thanos Dad and Mom.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138180: Dec 21st 2021 at 1:49:07 PM

Not that I see Marvel going this route, but growing attached to Titan and thus being (at the least) complicit in Thanos's crusade so the planet survives a bit longer does seem like yummy potential gray morality.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#138181: Dec 21st 2021 at 1:54:02 PM

[up] Are you referring to Eros in this scenario?

Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 21st 2021 at 1:54:14 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138182: Dec 21st 2021 at 1:56:55 PM

Well, yeah, since it was following up on the previouspost.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138183: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:16:12 PM

In the case of the Titan Eternals, their existence came from Mentor wanting to create a race of Eternals born from natural conception, not artifical creation like the regular Eternals

So the primary difference with Thanos and Eros is that they were born naturally through birth by a mother instead of being made in a factory by machine Gods.

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#138184: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:21:25 PM

If Thanos is an Eternal, that means he was a robot build by a Celestial whose job was to cultivate Titan as a buffet for an infant Celestial. That's some fucking posthumous context, isn't it? @.@ He's basically Space Ultron, built to simultaneously save and destroy worlds, and creating a cockamamie attempt at a political theory to try and rationalize these contradictory objectives.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138185: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:34:46 PM

[up] If this is true, and Thanos found out what his existence is meant for, no wonder the guy went mad.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
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#138186: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:42:25 PM

He's..he's ugly Kuja.

(anyone familiar with the final fantasy IX shake your head)

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#138187: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:43:23 PM

[up]What about a fist?

Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 21st 2021 at 2:43:31 AM

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Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#138188: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:49:17 PM

If Thanos is ugly Kuja then I wonder who our Necron is. Or our Zidane, for that matter.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#138189: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:50:50 PM

Following the metaphor through, Eros would be Zidane.

I'm kind of surprised no one at Marvel has addressed that one way or another, but then it's largely a moot point anyway with Thanos being dead.

It will probably come up, even as a throw-away line, in Eros' next appearance though.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#138190: Dec 21st 2021 at 2:53:51 PM

[up][up]Well, Necron is a tacked-on final boss and kinda bullshit so I'd guess...the Avengers?

They just came out of nowhere, inventing time travel to screw him over, personally. Carol being Carol and Steve's sudden hammer mastery probably made a little more irate then usual as well.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#138191: Dec 21st 2021 at 3:01:32 PM

It should also be noted that Mentor was a rebel by Eternals standards like Druig.

The whole Eternals making their own life was a very controversial thing and was only allowed after Mentor seceded from the main group to create his own Eternals society.

So absolutely nothing about Thanos and Eros is natural even by Eternals standards.

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#138192: Dec 21st 2021 at 3:06:28 PM

> If Thanos is ugly Kuja then I wonder who our Necron is. Or our Zidane, for that matter.

Star lord feels like a natural fit for Zidane,Necron is Ego

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#138193: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:06:35 AM

Official teaser for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.

Okey Dokey!
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#138194: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:15:49 AM

I guess we can talk about this now: that teaser is one of the stingers for No Way Home.

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#138195: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:16:27 AM

And idiots said Wanda would be the villain of that movie. HAH!

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#138196: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:21:34 AM

Idiots who only really only know Wanda through that Story That Shall Not Be Named That Daenerys'd Her.

Okey Dokey!
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#138197: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:26:37 AM

Don't cast that spell

-casts spell-

oops

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#138198: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:32:11 AM

I'm a simple man. I see Shuma Gorath and I get hype.

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Vault Dweller
#138199: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:32:30 AM

I am assuming from this poster that we will be seeing variants not just of Doctor Strange, but also for Wanda.

I'm actually thinking that the leaks about Wanda going full villain are referring to a villain variant of Wanda, and the Wanda we've been following for the last six years will still be a good guy.

Okey Dokey!
SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138200: Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:33:04 AM

Yes, I have been hearing that Wanda would be the villain, but honestly, it doesn't fit with the trailer or character arc. That said, her doing something accidentally, I'm good with that. You've got to give the prise to the animators, it's just incredible.

Sincerely S Awatching.

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