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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138077: Dec 16th 2021 at 11:46:48 AM

If Mephisto is introduced in the MCU, what would they end up doing with him?

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#138078: Dec 16th 2021 at 11:48:04 AM

They’ll play him exactly like the robot devil

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shackwave Ultraman Omega from Nebula M78 Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Ultraman Omega
#138079: Dec 16th 2021 at 11:50:55 AM

What is that green bull?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138080: Dec 16th 2021 at 11:51:42 AM

My guess is Dormammu but more interesting.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#138081: Dec 16th 2021 at 12:08:08 PM

He'd probably be a Doctor Strange-Ghost Rider affiliate. The satan archetype making deals left and right.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#138082: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:46:48 PM

Uggggh, I keep clicking on the NWH thread just out of force of habit. I've avoided spoilers so far, but I don't know my muscle memory will let me make it until tomorrow night...

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138083: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:50:05 PM

[up] I feel ya. I actually went over to the Multiverse section of the MCU character page, and I freaked out upon realizing that there were commented out NWH entries on there. Clicked off before I could absorb the info tho.

Other than that though, I've been alright. I'm knocking on wood though just to be safe.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
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#138084: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:51:40 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing how No Way Home performs at the box office.

It's hard to measure Black Widow and Eternals because these are unusual times. Neither film has performed impressively, but it's impossible to say how they would have performed if COVID wasn't a factor.

No Way Home, however, is a guaranteed billion-dollar concept. It's a cinematic event. For fans of the Spider-Man movies, this is like Sony's Avengers. Under normal circumstances, it would be certain to hit that billion-dollar mark.

So, how well No Way Home performs will give us a decent benchmark understanding for how seriously Black Widow's and the Eternals' dismal performances should be taken.

EDIT: Also Shang-Chi, which has outperformed Black Widow and it remains to be seen if Eternals will match it, but all three films are well below Marvel's typical numbers. It's clear that COVID is impacting the box office, but No Way Home will give us a good idea of how much it's impacting.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 16th 2021 at 1:53:12 AM

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#138085: Dec 16th 2021 at 2:00:55 PM

[up][up][up] You think that's bad? I'm not gonna be able to see it until Sunday... no Reddit or Youtube, not even multiplayer Steam games. It's driving me a bit stir-crazy since those have become some of my key time occupiers... Thankfully people on TV Tropes at least are pretty good about hiding spoilers, so I'm not totally offline.

Edited by FGHIK on Dec 16th 2021 at 4:01:16 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138086: Dec 16th 2021 at 2:11:38 PM

Huh I just had a thought about how Scorpion could be brought in.

Since we’re building up to sort of a Dark Avengers thing, Mac would be brought in but not as Venom but as Scorpion similar to how John Walker’s US Agent identity is regarded as similar to Cap but different.

Mac gets the experiment so the team can have its own superior Spider-Man analogue.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#138087: Dec 16th 2021 at 2:27:50 PM

ggggh, I keep clicking on the NWH thread just out of force of habit. I've avoided spoilers so far, but I don't know my muscle memory will let me make it until tomorrow night...

You must secretly be me. I've only recently learned to stop myself from doing that.

But I still learned a potential spoiler anyway from the Hawkeye thread of all things.

We'll see if it's true or not, though it's credible based on old information.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#138088: Dec 16th 2021 at 2:37:39 PM

[up][up]

Ooh. I like that a lot. I'm really looking forward to how much Yelena and Walker will hate each other. And it will be even more of a Dysfunction Junction if there is one or more team members who is just a vicious criminal.

I've also seen a suggestion that Gargan will be the MCU's Venom from the outset I think this relates to some No Way Home spoilers. And then Flash will be a Redeeming Replacement Agent Venom. So no Black Suit Peter necessarily.

I kind of like that idea of Gargan as Venom from the outset, because since the MCU version of Gargan is a violent gangster, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to make him a Composite Character with Lee Price. Who don't get me wrong, is a terrible character. But I kind of like the idea of the MCU doing something completely different with Venom.

Edited by Hodor2 on Dec 16th 2021 at 2:40:12 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#138089: Dec 16th 2021 at 2:39:58 PM

[up] Given the mid-credit scene of Let There Be Carnage, I somehow doubt that MCU-originated Venom is going to be a thing going forward. But points for the idea.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138090: Dec 16th 2021 at 3:00:44 PM

Whether he does become Venom or it would be a clever adaptation distillation if his Scorpion persona which was created as an attempt to make a stronger counterpart of Spider-Man is explicitly made by Valentina's bosses to effectively replace Spider-Man.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#138091: Dec 16th 2021 at 3:09:08 PM

You think that's bad? I'm not gonna be able to see it until Sunday

Meanwhile, I'm waiting until it hits streaming or VOD services because I'm avoiding the theaters while the pandemic's still going. DX

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#138092: Dec 16th 2021 at 5:18:02 PM

Same here. I'm not feeling like risking going to theaters to see NWH, even though the concept of it seems really cool, and also it's gonna be hell avoiding spoilers.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#138093: Dec 16th 2021 at 5:26:40 PM

I'm not going to the theaters either, yeah, so I'm making do with spoilers until NWH makes its way to D+ and I can watch it then. Helps that I haven't seen the Garfield/Maguire Spidey movies and don't have a super deep attachment to Holland's.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#138094: Dec 16th 2021 at 5:40:56 PM

I had no willpower because I looked up spoilers as soon as they were available.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#138095: Dec 16th 2021 at 5:48:55 PM

Huh wonder if Kraven ever shows up how would he react to Red Guardian.

Considering Kraven is the descendent of old Russian royalty while Guardian is a communist.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#138096: Dec 16th 2021 at 7:44:54 PM

I found my way home from watching No Way Home.

SPOILERS: Charlie Cox cameo was very good. Brief, but we got to see him catch a brick with his reflexes before Peter could.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#138097: Dec 16th 2021 at 8:58:58 PM

I will not be able to see NWH in a while, I don't know how long. My city is still under lockdown, and cinemas haven't been allowed to open yet...sad

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#138098: Dec 16th 2021 at 9:01:44 PM

I'm seeing it tomorrow....even though it's really cold where I am.

But I just got a Covid Booster shot, and I'm always wearing my mask.

This is happening. Nothing will stop me.

So I will destroy everyone who posts spoilers.

[up][up] Anyone.

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#138100: Dec 16th 2021 at 9:27:45 PM

I don't have anything else to say on it, so I figured here was fine. It's the MCU thread and I used spoilertags.

Non-spoiler news, the film was very good, so everybody planning to see it look forward to that.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Dec 16th 2021 at 12:29:34 PM

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