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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Here's a fascinating thought: Bruce gets his soul knocked out of his body in Endgame by the Ancient One.
The funny thing is, despite the fact that he's combined the Hulk and Banner into a single being, his soul still looks like his normal human self.
Maybe a reflection of how he truly sees himself as Banner first, despite recognizing that the Hulk is a part of him, or maybe a sign that no matter how big the monster is, the man is the true form?
One Strip! One Strip!That's pretty on brand for MCU Banner.
Comics Banner is... different. Remove Banner's soul from Hulk in the comics, and you get an unstoppable monster without restraint since they're distinct beings that only influence one another (in film, this happened in the Hulk vs Thor animated movie). MCU Hulk, however, has always been an extension of Banner himself (minus that bit of them arguing in Infinity War) - like Banner on drugs - leading to Professor Hulk being the pinnacle of what Hulk can be.
All things considered, I do prefer the MCU's take on the character.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 14th 2021 at 11:02:39 AM
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In fairness, Bruce Banner was born before the Hulk. So from a technical standpoint, that idea of yours makes sense.
I still hope we get to see more of the Hulk personality in the future though. The only time we really saw it was in Ragnarok, but it was done so well I think he really deserves a comeback of sorts. Not even the zombies episode in What If took advantage of that...
Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 14th 2021 at 11:04:57 AM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I'm hoping at somepoint we see the MCU go deeper into the multiple personalities that make up the Hulk.
Something I'm loving about the comics lately is that they're really applying modern understanding of Dissociative Identity Disorder to Bruce, Joe Fixit and the various hulks, and it's seemingly making the character(s) much deeper for it.
We haven't had the space to do that in the films. I do like how Avengers confirms that the Hulk existed in Bruce prior to the gamma accident, and likewise how the 2003 film established that Hulk as a personality dated back to Bruce's early abusive childhood.
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We actually almost got Joe Fixit in Age of Ultron, but it was nixed because apparently "everyone wanted the green guy".
In fairness, I'm not sure if Gray Hulk appearing to fight the Hulkbuster makes a whole lot of sense.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 14th 2021 at 11:20:13 AM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."We've already had on screen in recent memory Venom (who has fantastic goo based DID), Typhoid Mary, who has normal DID? and Norman Osborne (gas induced DID?)
Marvel and DC comics are just very fond of the whole DID thing. It stands to reason their adaptions will end up doing the same in time.
I think there is a chance that Moonknight and Hulk can step on each others toes, but that depends on if they strike over lapping tones or not.
Edit: if they do ever end up adapting World War Hulk, it does seem like necessitating an additional Hulk personality, given that I can't picture MCU Hulk or Banner instigating such a plot
I don't know what else you'd do with Banner and Hulk outside of exploring their truama and phycology or adapting World War Hulk.
Edited by Whowho on Dec 14th 2021 at 7:32:41 PM
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I mean, technically Venom doesn't have DID, the two personalities belong to two separate entities.
I hope Hulk can eventually just get his own Disney+ show to work around the Universal embargo on actual Hulk movies.
Edited by lbssb on Dec 14th 2021 at 11:36:17 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonI prefer having professor Hulk because it takes a new take on the Hulk and Banner didn't really have DID in the MCU, also it away to keep him involved but not the head hulk of the Legacy, giving that to Jen. Also would seem such a backstep for the green guy.
World war hulk could land up being an In-name-only adaption. There are some rumors going around that it will involve an explosion of Gamma mutants.
Sincerely S Awatching.So an adaption of the Avengers EMH arc "Gamma World". Alright, that could be doable.
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonThe Gamma World was a nice arc, I would love to see that. Changed quite a few villains connections, which does work in the MCU.
Sincerely S Awatching.Gamma monster explosion is a plot point I'd happy to see in a hulk film.
Not that Hulk films seem likely at this point.
I'm not particularly fond of the usual comic book depiction of DID either, they tend to be rather unsympathetic takes on the non-host alters.
But I hear Immortal Hulk was a surprising good depiction. I'm waiting on getting my copies.
Edited by Whowho on Dec 14th 2021 at 8:04:31 PM
From what I remember, I believe that basically amounted to "they wanted the Hulk to turn grey when Wanda hexes him and he fights Iron Man". Basically, a visual cue that he was possessed and not acting as himself. I don't recall anything about them planning to adapt Joe Fixit's personality, or anything like that.
Looking it up, there's only a handful of adaptations that go beyond the typical Bruce/Hulk personalities. Besides the MCU (if you count Professor Hulk), we have the '90s cartoon, Iron Man: Armored Adventures, The Super Hero Squad Show, (which all feature Grey Hulk), and The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (which featured Devil Hulk).
Immortal did a pretty interesting thing where all the Hulk personalities are essentially altars born of Bruce’s abused childhood.
The Savage Hulk is that scared little kid who desperately wants his daddies love, Joe Fixit was born out of kid Bruce watching a rugged gangster on TV and wanting to be like him and so he is literally a child’s idea of a what a man is like.
And the Devil Hulk himself is born out of Bruce’s desire to have a caring father figure which is why Devil makes a point of going all papa Wolf if Bruce or Savage is hurt. It’s also sad as Bruce sees Devil as a monster and is scared of him because of his prior experiences with father figures despite Devil genuinely caring for him.
Edited by slimcoder on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:14:02 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."From what I understand, Dissociative Identity Disorder is very different from how fiction likes to portray it, and I've seen plenty of examples of Split Personality being depicted in a non-accurate way to the IRL condition.
Then again, Split Personality and its subtropes are popular for a reason, and I do enjoy the use of the trope when it occasionally comes up. And I'm sure other people do as well.
I'm curious about Moon Knight, if only because I really like Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke. For me, my enjoyment is gonna be based on how seriously they take Marc Spector's split personality thing. If it's blatantly obvious that it's not going to be like DID, I think it'll be cool. If they're trying to frame it as though the MCU is trying to "represent" DID people through a superhero like they are with Makkari and Echo for the deaf community...yeah, I'm gonna have some problems with that.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:18:48 PM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."In the comics did Marc Spector have multiple personalities prior to his god pateron messing with his head?
Honestly the DID community needs a win in terms of depiction so I'm biased towards Moonknight trying to depict DID and doing it well, but it's probably going to be a fantastic magic induced split personality isn't it?
From my experience, DID is pretty understated. You can live with people for years without knowing they have DID. And some who have it don’t realize they do because every depiction is so exaggerated they assume what they’re going through can’t be that extreme. From the outside it might just look like mood swings or seasonal depression rather than a whole new personality.
It is true that oftentimes DID comes about as a defensive response to trauma. But sometimes the resulting alter doesn’t seek to lash out at their life but to blend in better with it. A “parent” alter might form as a substitute for neglectful real ones and serve to advise the main mind and even “take over” to carry out tasks.
From what I’ve discussed with folks, most everyone goes through points in their life where it feels like they’ve grown into a different person from who they used to be. DID feels like an interruption of the process where the “old self” doesn’t get absorbed by the “new self” and instead lingers.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 14th 2021 at 11:49:07 AM

Prolly a lowkey summation of all his issues, when he was wariting Ultimates 3 he couldn't be bothered to remember that Wasp there is an Asian woman, turning her Caucasian during his disastrous tenure over the Ultimate Universe.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."