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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It never stops to astound me how Daredevil was the only Defender to actually wear his comic attire.
Granted Jess is always in plainclothes but Luke spends way too much time in a plain-ass black hoodie and Iron Fist didn't wear anything cool at all.
They couldn't even have him wear stuff in green and gold, the fucking bare minimum they could not do.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
I think Marvel Entertainment wasn't exactly aware that Movie Superheroes Wear Black had been discredited by the mainline MCU at that point. Though then again, given how much jealousy Perlmutter and his cronies had for Feige, maybe they enforced it on the Netflix shows out of spite.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 6th 2021 at 8:06:44 AM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."It's possible.
Wen-Wu had them for years, but Shang managed to use them in a way that sent out a huge signal to Kamar Taj on the first try.
It wouldn't surprise me if he never learned their full abilities either due to never needing to, or because he never had the right mind set to try.
One Strip! One Strip!And then even Daredevil went back to his Beta Outfit in Season 3.
Edited by Forenperser on Dec 7th 2021 at 9:59:35 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianGranted Jess is always in plainclothes but Luke spends way too much time in a plain-ass black hoodie and Iron Fist didn't wear anything cool at all.
They couldn't even have him wear stuff in green and gold, the fucking bare minimum they could not do.
In fairness to Luke, his "costumes" in the comics are just regular clothes. Even his original outfit wasn't anything standout aside from the head band.
Yeah Luke Cage's "iconic" costume is basically just a yellow shirt and jeans. Which Netflix did do at least once, so there's that at least.
Meanwhile Jessica Jones was more often in civilian clothes for a while before the show, but the specific leather jacket and scarf ensemble is to my knowledge an invention from the show that the comics and other media have since lifted.
Sure Luke doesn’t actually wear a costume but he does have an iconic civie spandex look.
The bright yellow t-shirt is fairly distinctive but the show rarely has him in it instead mostly having him in a generic black hoodie with only a barely visible yellow inner stuff.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ah yes, the classic "We're totally gritty crime dramas for adults, we swear!" syndrome popularized by Christopher Nolan.
I think with DD and JJ this approach worked mostly like a charm. Luke Cage it had mixed results, and with Iron Fist it was simply completely boneheaded.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I don't think it's fair to blame Nolan Batman for overly realistic and edgy superheroes. It's a fitting tone for Batman, not very different from what you can find in modern comics, and a direction most fans were grateful for after the last movie. I mean, sure, Batman has had plenty of more "comic booky" interpretations, but it's not as if Nolan Batman would feel out of place if put beside his comic-book counterparts, the way some of the Film X-Men would for example.
And even putting all of that aside, realism-ized superheroes were pretty much the default for movies pre-MCU. The ones like Superman and Spider-Man actually wearing colorful costumes and using their hero names were very much the exception.
I most certainly wouldn't cite the Marvel Netflix stuff as "Trying too hard to be edgy" content.
Titans (2018) is what comes to my mind in that regard first. With them apparently thinking that dropping the F-Bomb in like every second sentence is somehow mature.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianThe tone felt appropriate for Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Luke Cage could adapt to the tone and Iron Fist uh not as much
Forever liveblogging the AvengersYou know, I had heard about the phenomenon that MCU movies tend to have weak third acts, but then it really hit me that there really aren't that many third acts in Marvel movies that I do like. So maybe they were onto something.
I dunno, maybe it's not the movies. Maybe I just don't like endings. XD
Edited by GNinja on Dec 8th 2021 at 11:13:10 AM
Kaze ni Nare!Ah man, talking about these Netflix shows just brings back the memories and the pain of having 3 out of 5 of them ending with open plot threads (though Daredevil was way less bad off in that regard than both Luke Cage and particularly Iron Fist).
Only Jessica Jones and The Punisher had conclusive endings for their characters.
And with the Broad Strokes approach these characters are gonna get (if they get any at all, that is), they will probably never, ever be resolved.
Edited by Forenperser on Dec 8th 2021 at 12:17:58 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianGenerally while Luke is pretty light-hearted for the most part he does fight mobsters and such so he does slot himself into the crime drama well for the most part.
Iron Fist though yeah no. Hell the differing genres of action with Luke and IF is the whole point of their buddy cop dynamic.
Turning IF gritty and grounded misses the point of his character.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

This
, I believe.
Personally, I'm taking it with a grain of salt because the way I see it, Jones did put in the effort, it's just that he didn't have the prep time because he was kinda eleventh hour casting. He was cast in February 2016, and shooting on Iron Fist season 1 started that March. One month to bulk up, which requires a lot of training (and eating) in itself, get a crash course in martial arts to pull off the more contemplative close up moments, learn the scripts, and move from London to New York City.
Edited by dmcreif on Dec 6th 2021 at 10:21:34 AM
Okey Dokey!