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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Apparently his staff spear though has the same bifrost power as Stormbreaker. Would have been a shorter movie if Hela had known that.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThe biggest thing I can think of that Odin did was when he stripped Thor of his powers and inscribed the Worthiness enchantment on Mjolnir.
...both of which make a lot more sense if Thor's powers are provided by his connection to Asgard and not by his internal godness. Odin just had to sever that connection.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 30th 2021 at 12:00:24 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Makes Ragnarok work better too. Thor didn't just blow up his home, he abandoned the super god colonialist power it gave him.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersRight. Thor wasn't cut off from Asgard because he realized Asgard wasn't a place, it was a people.
... a people that, in Infinity War, were mostly destroyed.
That said, I don't think Surtur's destruction of Asgard was necessarily what beat Hela, he just overpowered her what with his crown being put in the Eternal Fire granting him ridiculous power. Thor handily beat him earlier in the movie but that was a crippled Surtur a fraction of the size of Ragnarok (the event, not the movie) Surtur.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.I subscribe to the fan theory that Hela managed to teleport herself just in time to save herself, and she's been out of focus since the destruction of Asgard would've still significantly depowered her. Though if What If? is to go by then maybe not that depowered, since her Necroswords are shown to be weapons connected to her headdress. Would be cool if she in trying to reclaim her godly power somehow stumbled into and conquered Helheim - would be a fun way of realigning her back to her comic and mythological personae.
I wouldn't base anything on What If?, personally. The show plays fast and loose with continuity. The writers take its premise as tacit permission to Broad Strokes everything.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I dunno, I don't see why certain minor details that don't contradict canon (Hela's helmet granting her Necroswords, Red Guardian's shield, Zola having at least one more version of himself, etc.) can't be treated as such unless stated otherwise. IMO What If's a far weaker series if it can't inform anything of the main canon and is thus completely trivial outside of the multiverse stuff.
I'm thinking it will be some kind of Celestial-connected weapon in this version.
The reason I say that is because of what seems like an ongoing plot thread in some current and upcoming Phase 4 stuff.
Specifically (spoilers of course) Shang Chi has a stinger about a mysterious origin of the ten rings (granted, it could just be Fing Fang Foom) and the Eternals has a stinger where Dane Whitman is going to take out his cursed sword before being stopped by Blade. Also, I've seen some vague spoilers suggesting that Kamala Khan's powers in the MCU are connected to an arm band she wears.
In particular though, it seems like an easy connection to have Dane's sword be the same kind of thing as Gorr's, because you really don't need a separate origin for two similar Artifact of Doom swords.
Eternals spoilers ahead, proceed with caution as they might relate to Shang Chi.
There's a brief moment in the end credits for Eternals where you can see an illustration of an arm with a set of five rings on them, strongly suggesting The Ten Rings are derived from Celestial tech.
Edited by MrSeyker on Nov 30th 2021 at 5:25:11 AM
Thor clearly still has a ton of power even after Asgard's physical destruction. As was noted earlier, Thor tanked a fucking star to the face while forging Stormbreaker. Sure, it nearly killed him were it not for Stormbreaker, but still.
A star. To the face.
That Thanos was able to easily defeat him before that just highlights how powerful Thanos is — remember that Thanos is someone who can beat the Hulk in a fistfight without using the Power Stone.
Edited by M84 on Nov 30th 2021 at 9:42:12 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised

I think Odin's powered by Asgard too? I don't know.
Oh! The Bifrost definitely runs on Asgard-given god power. The Rainbow Bridge seems to function like a power conduit, the destruction of which immediately shuts the Bifrost down. We also know that Odin can use his own god powers to send Thor to Midgard because he does so in Avengers 1. And with Stormbreaker in hand, Thor too can open his own Bifrost-transits whenever he pleases.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 30th 2021 at 11:52:49 AM
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