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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#137151: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:37:29 PM

I blame Strange.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#137152: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:38:54 PM

I blame the nearest old guy near me.

...Rob, how old are you?

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#137153: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:41:37 PM

This...this is gonna be spectacular.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#137154: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:41:56 PM

Huh, so Peter doesn't want to send the villains back because they're fated to die in their own universes.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#137155: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:44:01 PM

....

Lizard didn't die. Unless Gwen managed to sneak into his cell with a gun sometime after the movie.

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Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#137156: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:44:31 PM

So it seems Superhero Movie Villains Die will be deconstructed.

Edited by Shadao on Nov 16th 2021 at 5:44:47 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#137157: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:46:22 PM

[up] I'm all for that deconstruction. Would be very cool to see.

Also, did anyone catch that other green figure flying on a hoverboard that most decidedly is not Norman Osborn?

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#137158: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:46:25 PM

So I guess it is just gonna be Spidey villains that show up then.

[up]I wonder which Harry they'll go with. I hope it's not the gremlin.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Nov 16th 2021 at 8:47:07 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#137159: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:47:51 PM

Made a thread for NWH a month out to put the speculation all somewhere tongue

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#137160: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:48:06 PM

[up][up] Eh. I feel like going with either Harry would be a bad idea. Especially since James Franco has become rather controversial lately.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Nov 16th 2021 at 5:48:14 AM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#137161: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:49:00 PM

The trailer gives the curious sensation that Doctor Octopus is gonna be on the side of the angels given his words to Pete and the brief shot of him being struck by Electro's lightning near the end.

Also: the other Goblin in the trailer seems to be Amazing-Spider-Man's Harry Osborn but with Raimi verse's costume design.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#137162: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:49:02 PM

[up][up][up]And here's a link to that thread. You're welcome, everybody.

Edited by fredhot16 on Nov 16th 2021 at 5:49:31 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#137163: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:51:16 PM

Once again showing how different MCU Spidey is in his own movies vs in the Avengers films.

  • Infinity War Spidey (zero hesitation): Why don't we just chuck him into space?
  • No Way Home (also zero hesitation): These people all die if I defeat them normally, and even if they're bad people I wont' do that.

Anywho, I'm starting to get a feel for what the intention of this film is. I think the endgame here is to fix it so that Peter has his standard slew of villains all at once, by having it so that when all is said and done and the reset button is pressed the assorted alt-universe villains remain in the MCU. Maybe even history ends up being changed so that they've always been there.

I am really starting to think that Sinister Six film is coming up now.

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#137164: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:51:39 PM

So what does everyone think of the repeated insistence that Tobey!Spidey and Andrew!Spidey will not be appearing in the film?

Blatant lies attempting to throw people off, or are the villains really all we're getting?

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#137165: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:52:28 PM

[up]It's been a while, Hell.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#137166: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:53:36 PM

Peter wouldn’t be the first hypocrite to think a no killing code doesn’t apply to aliens or robots

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#137167: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:54:07 PM

[up][up]Thanks for remembering me, I guess.

Edited by MrHellboy on Nov 16th 2021 at 7:54:39 AM

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#137168: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:57:13 PM

Still no sign of Venom. Strange.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#137169: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:59:03 PM

Peter's wearing a black suit. Maybe Venom decides to help him?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#137170: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:00:04 PM

>Laughing at Otto's name

How fucking dare you

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#137171: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:02:22 PM

Peter's wearing a black suit. Maybe Venom decides to help him?

I wouldn't be surprised. Tom Hardy's Venom isn't exactly evil in the first place.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#137172: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:02:57 PM

It's not even that weird of a name imo. Then again, maybe I'm nostalgia blinded.

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#137173: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:03:06 PM

[up][up]Venom will likely not be in the movie, since every indication is that Feige doesn't want to acknowledge Sony's universe. He made a deal that they can reference Tom now, but I really don't expect that to play into actual MCU canon.

Essentially what I'm saying is that Sony's Marvel Universe is probably the new Netflix Marvel Universe.

Except some of the Netflix stuff was actually good.

...Some of it.

Edited by lbssb on Nov 16th 2021 at 6:07:00 AM

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#137174: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:04:24 PM

Except some of the Netflix stuff was actually good.

O.K, boomer.tongue

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#137175: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:05:16 PM

Dr Otto Octavius is a name that’s fine on its own but becomes a bit silly when a man born Otto Octavius then becomes Dr Octopus

It’s in the category of weirdly apt real names, like how the Vulture’s last name is Toomes which sounds like Tombs

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