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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I remember how Rhodey's variant in What If expressed his belief of having to be a part of the system to be able to change it. So while yes, I agree that Rhodey definitely had a position of privilege, I think he was trying to use it to do good. Which is partially why Killmonger hated him.
Looks like I was
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Edited by MatthewWayne on Nov 13th 2021 at 12:28:38 PM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh...""When actually Steve, as a soldier, is for oversight, but "oversight with safeguards""
Problem with that is pretty much acountability as steve wanted, no was much as avenger needed, this is reflect in the fact he hide bucky participation in the death of the starks and he did because bucky matter personally for him, specially after telling tony he cant just stop saving people.
the movie dosent dwell that much but steve does have a strint of contrariness in him, a sort of "I will do what I feel is right, damn everyone else", tony isnt enterely wrong about that.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Y'know, that's something interesting to think about. When Steve was Captain America in the 21st century, he didn't really have much to lose, since most of his friends and family were gone, save for Bucky. But Sam now has to worry about his family and the community that supports them being threatened every time he suits up as Cap. So him being put through the wringer could be more of an emotional thing than Steve had to go through.
I take being put through the wringer as meaning one of 2 things.
Either its an Iron Man 3 where the hero spends most of the movie nerfed and angsting like Tony being left without his armor for the most of the movie.
Or The Winter Soldier where the hero is put in various badass encounters that they overcome or survive in spectacular ways like every encounter with Bucky or stuff like the elevator sequence.
Sam does have a vulnerability that Steve never had. Even Winter Falcon noticed that as Karli did essentially threaten his family.
Edited by slimcoder on Nov 13th 2021 at 12:50:21 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."It's an interesting note that many of the major heroes of the current generation of the MCU, in contrast to the previous group, actually have families and circles to protect that are completely unconnected to their hero lives.
Sam has a family outside the Avengers. Steve's family was the Avengers. Family Man Scott Lang is still around, and Cass might be taking the reins there soon. Kamala and Riri are coming up, Spidey has Aunt May, Shang has Katie and her family, and even Wanda has her desire to settle down with a family - even if her family may or may not be magical abominations of nature.
This will probably become especially prevalent if they keep setting up Young Avengers, given how teen heroes generally come with family groups (except in the tragic cases where they don't).
Per this article
, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is undergoing some extensive reshoots over the next two months.
It should be noted that most of this is due to lack of actor availability issues they had earlier this year due to COVID travel restrictions and whatnot.
This reshoot schedule, 6 weeks with 6 days a week of shooting, also sounds pretty similar to the reshoots that happened on Thor: Ragnarok, which were done over a three week period in July 2017 and were so intense that Feige claimed if they had done that production pace with principal photography, they could've finished the whole movie in 45 days. They reshot about 33% of Ragnarok (Hela's current introduction and the mid and post-credit stingers, among other things, are from the reshoots).
They also might be doing this to fix story issues (because those often get caught in test screenings).
Edited by dmcreif on Nov 13th 2021 at 6:21:11 AM
Okey Dokey!Seems like standard procedure. Here's hoping there isn't too much crunch happening over there. Given the whole ISATE strike thing, I'm starting to really wonder how stressed the VFX and filming crews must be on every MCU movie.
In other news, I just noticed that we lost the Surprisingly Realistic Outcome subpage on the main Marvel Cinematic Universe subpage. I'm sad now.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Nov 13th 2021 at 4:11:47 AM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I'd be a bit worried for Elizabeth Olsen, honestly, given that she'll almost certainly be having to shuttle back and forth between LA and Texas where she's shooting that Love and Death HBO Max miniseries alongside Jesse Plemons and Marvel alumnis Tom Pelphrey and Krysten Ritter among others.
Edited by dmcreif on Nov 13th 2021 at 7:30:47 AM
Okey Dokey!Yay, I got to see Eternals! I'm not going to talk about it too much in this thread, but I came away largely satisfied. It might have worked better as a miniseries because it has to carry so much world-building on its back. As a result, the ending doesn't feel earned. But it's still good.
Also, I have no idea who those characters are in the stingers, so I'm going to have to do some research.
Edited by Fighteer on Nov 13th 2021 at 7:33:00 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
Well, I'm sure that Olsen, Cumberbatch and the other big-name actors are doing okay for the most part. While I get that shuttling around the globe for filming is difficult, the main stars tend to get a lot of help and assistance in big-budget movies, and I feeling the acting aspect rolls off the tongue for them. The VFX and camera crew people, I don't know. I keep reading more and more reports about the crews of big-budget Hollywood productions having really difficult working conditions that often get buried beneath everything.
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Yeah, I'm a bit more worried about the crew (and people in medicine, and people in less high profile careers...) than the actors, specifically because they have way less power in this situation. But accidents involving crew and cast often have fatigue as a significant contributing factor, not just on sets, but also while driving to/from work. Not to mention the impact that working long hours can have on your mental health.
I find it hard to believe that simply pushing the release date back isn't an option. Losing money shouldn't be worth the potential risk to people's lives, but following climate change and coronavirus discourse has definitely impressed upon me the fact that a lot of people in positions of power simply don't give a damn, so I can't say I'm surprised. There's probably also cultural factors at work (too many people confuse the amount of time they spend at work with their worth as a person, and the people who benefit off of that push 'work as moral worth' narratives), but I've probably spent too much time soapboxing in here already...
Not exactly sure what's going on with Eternals because I don't want negative reviews clouding my own judgment, but cross-posting from the Box Office Thread:
Variety: ‘Eternals’ Leads Box Office Over ‘Clifford the Big Red Dog’
Even if it's not exactly the critical-acclaim-plus-billion-dollar-generator they were banking on, Marvel Studios' Eternals still looks to be doing better than the competition.
But then again, I guess that's not so hard when your competition is freaking Clifford the Big Red Dog.
Still, I want to see this as a win.
Just channel your inner Professor Hulk. Then everything can be an absolute win!
I didn't read a single review of Eternals before seeing it, and I'm glad. It's not nearly as bad as the rumor mill would have it. It has some genuinely funny and heartwarming moments while also toning down the usual "quip-per-minute" pace of Marvel writing. It also did as good a job as it could have, given the format, of helping us get to know the characters in what is frankly a huge ensemble.
As I said earlier, my two primary complaints are that there is so much backstory that it could have easily been a series rather than a film and that the ending feels a bit unearned. The latter is also a problem I had with Shang Chi. Some of the characters' motivations seem to flip on a dime even if they are written as long-standing problems.
It's not badly written; it just has too much stuff. It overwhelms.
Positives: the representation is on point. Given how easy and natural it felt, I keenly observe the missed opportunities in earlier films. Representation shouldn't be belabored; it should just be. Present the relationships and cultures and disabilities such as if they are completely normal. Eternals has the first on-screen gay kiss in any Marvel film, if I am not mistaken.
Edited by Fighteer on Nov 14th 2021 at 12:46:51 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Okay. So I liked X-Men: The Animated Series, that show was a part of my childhood. But... why? Who asked for this exactly? I don't think there's a legion of rabid X-Men: The Animated Series fans on the Internet clamouring for it to make a comeback?
I just... don't understand the reasoning for this specifically. There are loads of other Marvel shows and properties that deserve continuation more than freaking X-Men '97.
And no, I'm not still bitter about EMH and Spectacular Spider-Man. Why do you ask?
While I want to see how this plays out, I admit, that may not be a good thing.
A lot of revivals are hit and miss.
One Strip! One Strip!X-Men: The Animated Series is so fucking 90s that I don't think going with that tone unironically these days is going to go over well.
'Tis just a weird ass decision.

We don't know enough of Rhodey's backstory to know if he was privileged or not.