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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136951: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:06:32 AM

That's a lot. Not a bad lot but its just very much content.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#136952: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:14:00 AM

Little worried this new Spidey series will be another Peter still as a teen series.

Marvel needs to learn that ship has sailed.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#136953: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:16:27 AM

Here's additional screencaps for:

Deadline has coverage of the exclusive footage found currently on Disney+ right now for the aforementioned projects.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Nov 12th 2021 at 12:19:47 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#136954: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:27:53 AM

[up] OOOOH man, Moon Knight is looking haunted AF.

(Did anyone notice how Marc's reflections don't leave with him? CREEPY!)

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#136955: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:35:05 AM

The actual teasers.

Moon Knight looks like everything I've ever wanted. She-Hulk's made me chuckle because its the first teaser and it already basically has an ass-shot.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#136956: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:43:01 AM

House of Harkness is a surprisingly good name for this.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#136957: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:43:46 AM

*sees Marvel Zombies will be getting its own series*

Oof, that was my least favorite episode out of What If...?, not sure how a whole series is going to do.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Nov 12th 2021 at 12:44:03 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#136958: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:55:18 AM

[up][up][up]Honestly, that's pretty on-brand for Shulkie.

[up]Marvel Zombies might be a separate, non-MCU adaptation of the comic. We don't know for sure.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#136959: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:58:38 AM

She hulk looks way less muscular than I'd expect from the character. She doesn't look any more muscular than I do, which is a little bit disappointing as I was hoping we'd see some body positivity in that regard.

Khamala certainly seems to capture the feel of the comics, I approve.

Moon Knight has a niiice visual style. But it doesn't aliviate my fears it's going to be an unfair depiction of Dissociative Identity Disorder.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#136960: Nov 12th 2021 at 9:59:33 AM

To be fair, the CG on her might not be finished yet.

...If that is CG. I'm sometimes terrible at telling the difference. I've looked at Henry Cavill's upper lip in Justice League so many times and I still don't see anything.

Edited by lbssb on Nov 12th 2021 at 10:03:56 AM

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#136961: Nov 12th 2021 at 10:04:19 AM

Marvel Zombies being separate to the What-If episode would be quite weird and yet I could totally see that happening. The What-If did kinda speed through a lot of popular characters

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#136962: Nov 12th 2021 at 10:05:54 AM

The What If Zombies episode also has the little snag of T'Challa being one of the last survivors, which means there's really no option to continue from there in that continuity, since they've made it clear they will not recast 199999 T'Challa.

Edited by lbssb on Nov 12th 2021 at 10:07:13 AM

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#136963: Nov 12th 2021 at 10:18:46 AM

[up] I think it's possible that Marve Zombies might not be MCU connected, despite having the Marvel Studios production banner behind it. I only say this because X-Men'97 is also under the Marvel Studios banner, and Marvel Zombies is sporting its comic book logo.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#136964: Nov 12th 2021 at 10:21:20 AM

There's also the fact that Marvel Television doesn't exist anymore and Feige is now in charge of pretty much all Marvel stuff in general, so it makes sense to credit Marvel Studios for these. The new Spidey cartoon might not be connected either.

Welcome change from when Loeb and Perlmutter were deathly afraid of doing anything different from the movies.

Edited by lbssb on Nov 12th 2021 at 10:24:10 AM

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#136965: Nov 12th 2021 at 10:24:14 AM

[up] Actually, Spider-Man: Freshman Year is confirmed to be MCU-connected as a prequel animated series.

"The animated series follows Peter Parker on his way to becoming Spider-Man in the MCU, with a journey unlike we've ever seen and a style that celebrates the character’s early comic book roots. Written by Executive Producer Jeff Trammel."
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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136966: Nov 12th 2021 at 2:35:34 PM

Okay so that’s the hook for anther high school cartoon.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 12th 2021 at 2:35:41 AM

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#136967: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:09:29 PM

So what do people think of Fury's new look?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#136968: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:11:43 PM

Badass on it's own, but Nick Fury without the Eye Patch isn't Nick Fury, in my humble opinion.

It's just an iconic part of him.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136969: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:12:40 PM

Alright, so here's my general thoughts on some of the stuff revealed so far.

I'll be honest, quite a few of these projects I'm looking at just seem like random spin-off stuff that's just there for the sake of filler. The Spider-Man prequel (do we really need to see a young Peter Parker go through his origin story again?) and House of Harkness seem like this to me (name sounds cool, but I don't know where that show could go).

I didn't hate What If...Zombies?! as much as some people did, but anything more than that episode seems completely pointless and unnecessary, and so I really don't get why Marvel Zombies is getting an adaptation. Although with the news of the 90s X-Men show getting a sequel series, on top of the cancelled Star-Lord T'Challa show makes me wonder if some of these shows were meant to really lean into the multiversal shenanigans that are starting to open up. Had Boseman not passed away, I bet that show would've leaned into it more.

Only seen a few snippets of She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel, and I haven't seen anything for Moon Knight. I hope that She-Hulk will explain how Bruce reverted back to normal in Shang-Chi. As for Ms. Marvel...I really hope she isn't just a Loony Fan Idiot Hero. I've seen that trope deconstructed far too many times, and it wouldn't feel fresh to me.

[up][up] Fury's new look is cool and interesting, though I do prefer his OG appearance. Right now, he looks like that one character from Dune who keeps getting memed to death.

Though that reminds me, I hope we get some more Secret Invasion teasers. I'm really curious to see what that show is about.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Nov 12th 2021 at 3:12:59 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136970: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:14:23 PM

Baby Groot's also getting a show.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#136971: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:17:32 PM

Peter Parker on his way to becoming Spider-Man in the MCU

And here I was thinking we dodged at least one Uncle Ben Death(tm)...

Edited by Synchronicity on Nov 12th 2021 at 5:17:52 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136972: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:20:18 PM

[up] Y'know, I'd like to hope we get a twist on MCU Uncle Ben's death. Like, maybe he has an illness and passed away peacefully instead of being killed by a burglar.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136973: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:21:16 PM

Or he never died at all and does not exist in their continuity,its fairly obvious to me that's the direction they're going with Spiderman,there's no Uncle Ben or his wise words

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 12th 2021 at 11:22:34 AM

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#136974: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:28:00 PM

If he just dies from an illness you wouldn't get the "great responsibility" aesop. Though I guess they could do like the first Superman movie and have it be "you can't save everyone" instead.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136975: Nov 12th 2021 at 3:29:01 PM

Oh I just now realized Spider-Man high school is basically like Batman Year One stories.

Overused AF and creatively bankrupt to a degree.

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