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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136901: Nov 10th 2021 at 9:25:35 AM

The weird thing about TASM 2 is that Emma Stone advocated for Gwen's death

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136902: Nov 10th 2021 at 9:47:21 AM

[up] Huh? Really? That's...unexpected. Wouldd've thought she would want to be in the movies more instead of less.

In fact now that I think of it, it's kind of a good thing the Amazing franchisee didn't take off. Because then we would've had to deal with Shailene Woodley as Mary Jane in future movies, which...really wouldn't have aged well.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136903: Nov 10th 2021 at 9:51:49 AM

"[Fans ask] about whether or not the films are going to stay true to her story... Which I'm hoping they are. Essentially the argument is that Spider-Man kills her by accident. So the person she loves is the person who kills her, which is the most horrifying thing. Apparently people unsubscribed to the comic book when that happened because they were just so flipped-out over it... But, of course, I want to stay true to that."

She didn't want it to happen in movie 2 but she wanted to get the chance to do the only iconic in public consciousness Gwen story, her death.

And I guess, since the Amazing movies ended with 2, she got her monkey paw wish.

Edited by Bocaj on Nov 10th 2021 at 12:52:22 PM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136904: Nov 10th 2021 at 9:55:29 AM

[up] One heck of a monkey paw wish, that's for sure

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#136905: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:16:14 AM

Why wouldn't Shailene Woodley as MJ age well? Did something happen with her? Sorry I don't normally fallow her work so I am curious.

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#136906: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:18:13 AM

Her fiance Aaron Rodgers has come out as an unhinged anti-vaxxer, and while she hasn't explicitly confirmed that she is also one, she's tacitly condoned it, by mainly ignoring it, and coupled with her very Granola Girl leanings, a lot of people think she is one at this point.

Edited by jjjj2 on Nov 10th 2021 at 1:29:53 PM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#136907: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:27:00 AM

Oh I didn't know that. Yeah her being in the role wouldn't have aged well then.

To get back on track. I wonder why they are keeping the Rami armor for Goblin seeing as that suit is a bit of a meme at this point.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 10th 2021 at 12:28:05 PM

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#136908: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:43:38 AM

I'd like to see us initially having the power ranger armour, but then at somepoint he switched to a more comics accurate expressive mask.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136909: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:44:40 AM

Zero Suit Goblin

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#136910: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:46:22 AM

[up][up][up] Recognizability? I'm glad they kept it.

Edited by Forenperser on Nov 10th 2021 at 7:46:36 PM

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#136911: Nov 10th 2021 at 10:54:01 AM

I mean, if this is supposed to be THE Raimi Goblin, it's pretty much got to be the same armour.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#136912: Nov 10th 2021 at 11:22:32 AM

Doesn't it get a slight upgrade? He has some purple rags in the concept art

Edited by Zarius on Nov 10th 2021 at 11:22:42 AM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#136913: Nov 10th 2021 at 12:31:45 PM

Personally I've always found comic accurate Green Goblin too silly. Like, people complain about the armor in Spider-Man 1 being too silly... And they'd rather have that cheap rubber halloween mask? I'll never understand it.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#136914: Nov 10th 2021 at 12:37:49 PM

Turns out that 'AMA' I mentioned might have been a fake, though the source who told me it was fake stated there will be a trailer next week, so we'll see who blinks first

Edited by Zarius on Nov 10th 2021 at 12:38:13 PM

MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#136915: Nov 10th 2021 at 12:39:44 PM

[up][up]IMO, the biggest problem with the Dafoe Goblin's costume is the static mask - the combination of the Goblin's overall hamminess with the expressionless mouth and face just doesn't really work. It doesn't necessarily have to be a copy of the comic mask, but some way for Gobby to show expression would have been nice.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136916: Nov 10th 2021 at 1:04:21 PM

[up] It's also just a complete waste of Dafoe on top of that. Like you're gonna have Willem fucking Dafoe going 1000% and you're gonna completely cover his entire head? The hell are you doing? [lol]

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#136917: Nov 10th 2021 at 1:07:55 PM

Ah come on, he did plenty of hamming up without the mask.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136918: Nov 10th 2021 at 1:08:34 PM

That proto mask they developed before going with the static mask was incredible.

Hopefully they use something like that.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136919: Nov 10th 2021 at 1:41:54 PM

Okay, unpopular opinion: I actually like the Raimi Goblin mask. Yes, I agree with the criticisms made, but there's just something about its design that I genuinely like. And since you can still see his mouth and eyes on occasion, I think it kinda plays with the double role status of Norman and the Goblin.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#136920: Nov 10th 2021 at 2:08:39 PM

I think it makes sense given the goblin equipment was intended for a military contract

I’d still like to see something closer to the comics in a movie but it also makes sense to use what was already in the Raimi movie for something calling back to the older movies

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#136921: Nov 10th 2021 at 2:23:53 PM

So the Eternals writers were asked if Ego really is a Celestial, and their response was basically "That's for James Gunn to decide".

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136922: Nov 10th 2021 at 2:30:03 PM

Really it wouldn't be hard to slap some purple color on the suit or some purple clothes.

Gobby in his madness decides to add some drip to his armor.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136924: Nov 10th 2021 at 2:51:48 PM

And Wright's anti-vaxxer beliefs finally comes to bite us in the ass in a major way.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136925: Nov 10th 2021 at 2:57:14 PM

[up] I will additionally note that it currently isn't 100% confirmed whether or not Wright is vaccinated. However, the delay has been unusually long for stunt injuries (~1-2 months) which has re-ramped speculation over her vaccination status.


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