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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136826: Nov 8th 2021 at 6:00:27 AM

[up][up] Wait what concept art leak?

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#136827: Nov 8th 2021 at 6:32:16 AM

Still think Sony's got a very dubious marketing strategy out there. We're less than 40 days out from No Way Home, and there's only been one trailer and one poster released. It almost seems like the leakers are basically doing the marketing for them.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#136828: Nov 8th 2021 at 6:35:09 AM

Still better than what they did with TASM 2, where they basically spoiled everything in advance x)

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136829: Nov 8th 2021 at 7:20:07 AM

[up][up][up] Here if you want it. I'll note I have also seen a version with the Raimi mask, and for the life of me I can't tell which one came first.

[up][up] Yeah say what you will about the leaks (you certainly have [lol]) but they're filling a content drought. At least with Eternals no one really knew what it was about (deliberately) so people were largely content stewing over trying to understand all the new characters. NWH's general concept has been "Hollywood's worst-kept secret" for nearly a year and we've officially got barely anything.

Edited by Watchtower on Nov 8th 2021 at 10:20:39 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136830: Nov 8th 2021 at 7:22:58 AM

[up] It also kind of lines up with the fact that pretty much everything Tom Holland is involved with ends up getting spoiled at some point. As bad as the leaks are, at least it's "in-character" for our new Spidey...

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#136831: Nov 8th 2021 at 7:58:06 AM

Oh man, those Disney snipers must be hunting down leakers.

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#136832: Nov 8th 2021 at 10:51:50 AM

Okay, NOW Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has begun shooting.

Okey Dokey!
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#136833: Nov 8th 2021 at 10:56:14 AM

Well, Sony's 'final' Ghostbusters Afterlife trailer did tease the appearance of all three surviving originals with a week to go to release, so maybe something will crop up in a TV spot eventually.

Edited by Zarius on Nov 8th 2021 at 10:56:58 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#136834: Nov 8th 2021 at 10:59:05 AM

It makes total sense they're not advertising just yet, they don't want to clutter the brand too much since they're still doing press for Eternals and Hawkeye.

And as mentioned the hype machine keeps it alive anyway. It's smart.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#136835: Nov 8th 2021 at 10:59:58 AM

Maybe something comes out around Disney+ Day this Friday.

Okey Dokey!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136836: Nov 8th 2021 at 6:38:55 PM

Huh I just remembered this concept art that was released when they announced development for the Guardians movie.

I wonder if they'll ever wear outfits like this. Star Lord here looks really good, Gamora's pulling a cape, and Drax is rocking a shirt-vest combo.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/guardians_of_the_galaxy_58.jpg

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#136837: Nov 8th 2021 at 7:39:56 PM

Hey. So. If anyone was wanting to dive into Spider-Man: No Way Home spoiler-free, y'all might want to back away from Twitter and Reddit and social media in general. Because there are some huge things running around no thanks to a guy named John Campea thinking he was invincible.

Seriously. Don't dig around Twitter.

(But if you want to really know, then maybe I might consider spilling via PM.)

All I can say is holy cow, man...

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#136838: Nov 8th 2021 at 7:51:51 PM

John Champea will rest...in peace.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136839: Nov 8th 2021 at 7:52:28 PM

Jesus Sony, get your shit together. Why is it this hard to keep information on one of your biggest movies from leaking out onto the internet? I know you're probably still recovering from 2014, but still. This is getting embarrassing.

Side note, I haven't looked at the leaks, but I keep seeing random names trend in the sidebar. Which is...ominous to say the least.

Also wait, who's John Champea?

Edited by MatthewWayne on Nov 8th 2021 at 7:53:03 AM

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#136840: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:00:12 PM

Some movie dude on Twitter. It's just another fake "leak" that's obviously photoshopped but he's claiming someone told him it was real. It looks so obviously fake that I don't know how anyone is taking it seriously.

Edited by Diana1969 on Nov 9th 2021 at 3:00:28 AM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#136841: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:03:02 PM

Fake or not you would think Sony would keep this under wraps.

Just Makima.
Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#136842: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:06:45 PM

Why would they keep badly photoshopped images they didn't even make under wraps?

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#136843: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:11:07 PM

Not talking about Champea the images of Goblin, Electro, and Doc Ock that were leaked ended up being real. Movie also had a similar fake poster on a bus before the real one was revealed.

Edited by Mizerous on Nov 8th 2021 at 11:11:45 AM

Just Makima.
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#136844: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:18:30 PM

Grain of salt aside, the table meeting picture was teased in an earlier excerpt of the Empire Magazine article for NWH. Some people also rationalize that background details like the bookcase practically the same, though at a different angle, from our only official trailer.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Nov 8th 2021 at 11:19:12 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#136845: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:22:55 PM

Or it could just be Tobey Spidey at the dinner table. Nothing's certain yet.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136846: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:43:47 PM

It should be noted that if the pictures are fake then they're very very well-done fakes. The Spider-Men pic has very solid and consistent lighting and the table pic has a lot of matching/working elements that would need to be presumably faked. Not saying whether it's real or not, but if it's not whoever made them did A+ work.

It should also be noted that Campea clearly thought they were real, despite his more recent tweets. There's no reason for him to watermark them if he thought they were fanmade. He's a noteworthy critic, and his behavior lines up with someone backpedaling out of fear that the heat will kill his access among other things.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#136847: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:47:42 PM

I genuinely do not see how they could be real, they look very photoshopped and I'm pretty sure Maguire is a lot older looking than he is in the "leak".

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#136848: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:57:25 PM

[up] Well, we already know that they'll be using de-aging effects for Alfred Molina. Why not Tobey Maguire too?

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#136849: Nov 8th 2021 at 8:59:11 PM

I mean even if that's the case, it still looks like they plucked a shot of him from another movie and photoshopped him in there.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136850: Nov 8th 2021 at 10:31:32 PM

Ya know I actually feel bad for Quill. Like no one ever says Star Lord, they always say it ironically, sarcastically, or just plain mispronounce it for whatever reason.

I mean its a callsign and its a big universe, I'm not sure why people have such a hard time calling him by his codename.

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