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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#136751: Nov 6th 2021 at 1:27:04 PM

Eh, Vulcan was one of these concepts that never really resonated with the fans.

Typical "Long long brother" cliche, way too overpowered and whiny to boot. Kinda like the X-Men's (not QUITE as extremely annoying) Superboy-Prime.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136752: Nov 6th 2021 at 1:34:41 PM

Still quite the spectacle, Black Bolt goes all out for once and does great and terrible things in the pursuit of war.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#136753: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:01:17 PM

When he really wants to express his fury, Black Bolt plops down a stage and... sings karaoke.

The carnage is unthinkable.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#136754: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:19:38 PM

Though I'm pretty sure the chances of the MCU getting rebooted are pretty damn low right now...

For now? Yes. But I'd say it's inevitably going to happen eventually. I mean, the MCU has proven these characters can make money in boatloads, and only made them more popular in the process. At some point, they're going to want to make more movies with Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, Thor, ect. And they'll also want to avoid the Continuity Lock-Out issues the comics have.

That's not to say it will happen anytime soon, necessarily. But I'm quite confident one day the MCU train will slow down and stall, after which it's just a matter of time before it's restarted.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#136755: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:21:53 PM

[up][up] And he always sings "My Way", like every other annoying karaoke-inclined man.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136756: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:28:03 PM

reality destroyed by 'my way'

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136757: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:28:13 PM

[up][up][up] If the MCU does end up stalling at some point, do you think Marvel might start making trilogies for individual heroes again like they used to do with Spider-Man and Blade? It might be interesting to see how one can tell superhero stories in their own focused universe without the question of "when will this guy show up". I'd certainly be curious about it.

Like, imagine a Black Panther or Thor trilogy that was just focused in their own worlds without any ensemble films in between. That would be a fun thing to try...

Edited by MatthewWayne on Nov 6th 2021 at 2:28:26 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136758: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:29:07 PM

I like how the War of Kings trailer actually says, "In space..... EVERYONE will hear his scream."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#136759: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:31:30 PM

Who was the idiot who taught Black Bolt how to properly do a Metal Scream?

Wake me up at your own risk.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136760: Nov 6th 2021 at 2:32:24 PM

It was Deadpool,it's always Deadpool

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#136761: Nov 6th 2021 at 5:53:15 PM

My prediction for the plot of Black Panther 2:

  • It's set between Infinity War and Endgame (or, at least the first act is), and a huge part of the plot is the characters debating over who takes over as the next Black Panther with T'Challa gone.

  • Someone will mention that apparently, even before the Snap, T'Challa was already suffering from an incurable disease and didn't have very long to live, and he kept it secret from his friends and family. This is to set up the character having died from that disease off-screen after Endgame.

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#136762: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:11:53 PM

I highly doubt they are going to take the real life events that led to Chawick Boseman's death, and turn it into a scene of people talking about his character going through the exact same thing.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136763: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:13:30 PM

That would be quite tasteless yes,but they have come up with a reasonable reason for Black Panther not being around anymore

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136764: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:15:42 PM

"I can't believe T'Challa found out that there was a space Wakandan empire off-screen and went to overthrow the tyrannical government after Endgame."

"That's wild"

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136765: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:17:36 PM

"We could say Namor was involved..."

"dude no "

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#136766: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:23:20 PM

King T'Challa is very busy running those outreach programs he wanted to open to uplift black families out of poverty around the globe. He, unfortunately, no longer has time to be gallivanting about being Vibranium Batman and has been forced to delegate.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 6th 2021 at 6:24:05 AM

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#136767: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:45:41 PM

I'm not sure how to put this without it being in terrible taste, but I did call to mind the fact that in-universe, Wakanda has figured how how to cure basically every disease and treat basically every injury.

So, in that context, I don't know if the explanation would work that T'Challa died of an incurable disease.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#136768: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:46:24 PM

But man, they really shot themselves in the foot having Killmonger torch every heart-shaped herb except the one they smuggled to T'challa.

Now how are they gonna justify the next Black Panther having herb power?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136769: Nov 6th 2021 at 6:46:26 PM

Ah yes the infamous cure for cancer that they refuse to share with anyone else........

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#136770: Nov 6th 2021 at 7:08:57 PM

He joined Steve Rogers in the parallel timeline to make sure that Steve wasn't just sitting around letting Jim Crow happen.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#136771: Nov 6th 2021 at 7:13:10 PM

I feel like cultivating plants artificially is child's play compared to most of the tech they have over at Wakanda.

The legend has returned.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#136772: Nov 6th 2021 at 7:13:40 PM

[up]x4 That I think is probably the most readily fixable issue.

The quick fix would be that it turns out Heart Shaped Herbs can regrow after being burned as long as the roots are still mostly intact and they are provided adequate nutrients. This fact wasn't well known before because people weren't exactly in the habit of torching the garden of the Heart Shaped Herb.

The longer fix would be searching for another Heart Shaped Herb in the wilds of Wakanda. Which could be either the film's prologue or a major plot point.

Edited by Falrinn on Nov 6th 2021 at 7:13:56 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136773: Nov 6th 2021 at 7:24:38 PM

Maybe they have seeds somewhere. Plants grow from seeds, I've heard.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136775: Nov 6th 2021 at 8:50:50 PM

Oh this is a fun quote that describes Thanos pretty well, from One Piece about Kaido the King of Beasts. tongue

"Those who know of him have a certain saying: "If it's one-on-one, always bet on Kaido." Whether on land, at sea, or in the air, it's a widely-held belief that this terrifying pirate is more powerful than any other living creature!"

Yup sums up Thanos. Downright unstoppable, with only 2 people in the entire universe able to kill him and both gained powers from Infinity Stones to do so.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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